From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C77BC75 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:45:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from biggles.scientician.net (0x50a5bb8d.odnxx9.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.165.187.141]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1NBjWdj009490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:45:32 +0100 Received: from bardur by biggles.scientician.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1D3uxP-0008RN-G7; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:45:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:45:31 +0100 From: Bardur Arantsson To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Cross-platform "Hello, World" graphical application in OCaml Message-ID: <20050223114531.GC20055@scientician.net> Mail-Followup-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr References: <20050222120308.GA2975@furbychan.cocan.org> <200502230005.01479.jon@jdh30.plus.com> <20050223072916.GB20055@scientician.net> <200502231121.36590.jon@jdh30.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200502231121.36590.jon@jdh30.plus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 421C6CDC.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 ocaml:01 wrote:01 wrote:01 renderer:01 half-way:01 framebuffer:01 guis:01 ocaml:01 caml-list:01 sdu:01 radeon:98 ...:98 ...:98 glass:98 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:21:36AM +0000, Jon Harrop wrote: > On Wednesday 23 February 2005 07:29, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:05:01AM +0000, Jon Harrop wrote: > > > I prefer the idea of implementing a single back-end: a decent vector > > > graphics renderer which uses OpenGL. I can't think of any reason I'd > > > ditch these for another back-end. > > On Linux, only Radeon and NVidia cards have even half-way decent OpenGL > > support -- and even then you need proprietary drivers for the most recent > > ones. I probably don't need to tell you that rendering OpenGL to a > > framebuffer via software on a general-purpose CPU (ie. software > > rendering) is spectacularly slow. Certainly slow enough to make a GUI > > completely unusable. > That is totally untrue, of course. Software rendering of OpenGL is about as > fast as the current software rendering of GUIs. Well, maybe I've just been unlucky, but all the OpenGL GUI stuff I've tried has been unusable both because of (lack of) speed and other usability issues. (Granted, this *was* a long time ago when CPUs weren't as powerful as they are today, but still...) > Would anyone be interested in a commercial OCaml IDE? I'm not really sure caml-list is the proper place to do market research... -- Bardur Arantsson The glass is not half full, nor half empty. The glass is just too big.