From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ED2BC8E for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:42:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1O9gn6w021828 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:42:49 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01231 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:42:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from first.in-berlin.de (dialin-145-254-061-075.arcor-ip.net [145.254.61.75]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1O9gkcU021818 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:42:48 +0100 Received: by first.in-berlin.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id 666CEAF422; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:44:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:44:14 +0100 From: Oliver Bandel To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Cross-platform "Hello, World" graphical application in OCaml Message-ID: <20050224004413.GA461@first.in-berlin.de> References: <20050222120308.GA2975@furbychan.cocan.org> <421B6675.20109@orcaware.com> <20050222172340.GA2557@furbychan.cocan.org> <20050222235913.GB429@first.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 421DA199.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 421DA197.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; oliver:01 bandel:01 oliver:01 in-berlin:01 caml-list:01 ocaml:01 wrote:01 bandel:01 wrote:01 gtk:01 lablgtk:01 gtk:01 osx:01 sourceforge:01 kde:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:21:49AM -0700, William D. Neumann wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Oliver Bandel wrote: > > >But even if I had do this... the question was, if there is a > >native OS-X interface *without X11*, and gtk uses X11. > > > >So this is not the direction to go... > > Well, it may be possible to get lablgtk working with gtk+osx > , an attempt to bring gtk+ natively to > Aqua. Unfortunately, like HOC, this project seems to have stagnated as > well, with no evidence of progress in the last nine months... And like HOC (somebody wrote about this yesterday), gtk seems also to be waste of ressources. At least when using Gnome it seems to me as blaoted as qt/KDE is. Well, it's some yeras ago, but I always was happy when I could use fvwm2 or similar smart XFree-stuff, because it worked stable and didn't used all ressources.... So when I hear from Qt/GTK I always get shuddered. This is a bit like reiimplementing M$-Windows on Linux/Unix and I don't want to have stupid GUIs! Keep it small and simple. Don't blow it up. Ciao, Oliver