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From: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
To: Christophe TROESTLER <debian00@tiscali.be>
Cc: "O'Caml Mailing List" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] NBody (one more question)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:57:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050225175721.GB25527@yquem.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050224.231855.40627447.debian00@tiscali.be>

> When I compile the C code with -O0 (with gcc -o nbody.gcc -Wall
> --fast-math nbody.c -lm), I get a time of 1.513s which is comparable
> to OCaml (1.607s).  But as soon as I turn on -O options (as with gcc
> -o nbody.gcc -Wall -O1 --fast-math nbody.c -lm), the running time
> drops down to 0.871s (0.58%).  Can somebody tell me what is the
> optimization that has such an effect and whether it could be applied
> to OCaml ?

First, make sure the Caml code is compiled with bounds checking off
(ocamlopt -unsafe), otherwise the comparison isn't quite fair.  But
even with -unsafe, you are correct that the Caml code is significantly
slower than the gcc -O1 code.  This is especially surprising because
the assembly code generated by ocamlopt and gcc look very similar.
So, I don't think you can pinpoint the speed difference on a
particular optimization.

My current guess would be alignment issues:
- data alignment: float arrays are 4-aligned in OCaml, 8-aligned in C,
  so if you're unlucky you can end up with slower unaligned accesses
  on every Caml float.
- code alignment: it could be that OCaml doesn't perform sufficient
  alignment on function entry points and loop points.  The proper
  alignments for various implementations of the x86 architecture are
  a mystery to me.

Again, these are just wild guesses.  To understand what is going on
inside the chip, one would need to use performance monitoring
counters.  Unfortunately, I never felt motivated enough to shell out
the $$$ for Intel's VTune analyzer...

- Xavier Leroy


      parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-25 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-07 18:57 [Benchmark] NBody Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-07 19:16 ` [Caml-list] " Will M. Farr
2005-02-07 19:36   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-07 19:55     ` Will M. Farr
2005-02-08 10:34       ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-02-08 10:52         ` Micha
2005-02-07 20:16     ` Markus Mottl
2005-02-07 19:37 ` Martin Jambon
2005-02-07 19:46   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-07 20:22     ` Martin Jambon
2005-02-07 20:04   ` sejourne_kevin
2005-02-07 20:32     ` Robert Roessler
2005-02-07 22:57     ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-08  1:29 ` skaller
2005-02-08  1:48   ` Will M. Farr
2005-02-08  9:01     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-08  9:37     ` skaller
2005-02-08 10:10       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-08 16:36         ` skaller
2005-02-08 12:04       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-02-08 17:06         ` skaller
2005-02-08 10:25   ` Xavier Leroy
2005-02-08 18:34     ` skaller
2005-02-08 10:43 ` Xavier Leroy
2005-02-08 11:26   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-02-08 15:59   ` Florian Hars
2005-02-13 16:40   ` Christoph Bauer
2005-02-13 18:13   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-24 22:18   ` NBody (one more question) Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-25 17:06     ` [Caml-list] " John Carr
2005-02-25 17:17       ` Christophe TROESTLER
2005-02-26 16:08         ` John Carr
2005-02-25 17:24     ` Ken Rose
2005-02-25 17:42       ` Oliver Bandel
2005-02-25 17:57     ` Xavier Leroy [this message]

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