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From: Jon Harrop <jon@jdh30.plus.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: MinCaml English Documentation
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 04:12:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200503080412.33653.jon@jdh30.plus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050307.220107.85397271.eijiro_sumii@anet.ne.jp>

On Tuesday 08 March 2005 03:01, Eijiro Sumii wrote:
> I've uploaded a (rather quick) translation of my MinCaml compiler
> tutorial:
>
>   http://min-caml.sourceforge.net/index-e.html

Fantastic, thank you!

> From: "Jon Harrop" <jon@jdh30.plus.com>
> I'm not sure if MinCaml by itself can make any money:-) but I've
> always been wondering if it is possible to sell the "programming
> language processing technology" (which is the killer application of
> ML).  I heard Galois Connection has been doing something like that by
> using Haskell, focusing on security in particular.

I think companies would be willing to spend a bit of money (~1000UKP) to buy a 
working shell of a compiler so that they could develop it however they 
wanted. If our company could afford a copy (and it was more complete) then we 
would use it to develop a custom language for graphics programming. An 
interpreter might also be commercially viable.

> Actually, I feel a little reluctant to use byte code in the back end,
> because (for the original educational purpose) it hides some important
> details - such as garbage collection!

Yes, ideally you want an elegant demo GC. But isn't having a hidden GC 
preferable to having no GC? Using an existing byte-code is probably also the 
most preferable way to make your compiler cross-platform, short of writing 
multiple assembler back-ends. Another option is C-- or maybe Java bytecode. 
From what I hear, C-- is stable enough now.

You could always write a demo OCaml-compatible GC in OCaml for educational 
purposes. Then people could use whichever GC they wanted.

> On the other hand, if 
> supporting (not teaching) GC is important, I believe Boem's GC does a
> good job even though it is conservative.

IMHO, Boem's GC would put people off. As OCaml's GC is already available, 
efficient and non-conservative, I'd go for that.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
Objective CAML for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists


  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-08  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-03 22:26 MinCaml: an educational compiler for tiny ML subset (documented in Japanese) Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-05  8:32 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-05 14:37   ` Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-05 14:48     ` Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-07  0:20     ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-08  3:01       ` MinCaml English Documentation Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-08  4:12         ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2005-03-08  7:09         ` [Caml-list] " Ken Friis Larsen
2005-03-08 18:59         ` David MENTRE
2005-03-08 19:15           ` Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-08 20:13         ` Xavier Leroy
2005-03-08 22:32           ` Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-14 17:31             ` Looking for an efficient implementation of simply typed lambda calculus Sébastien Hinderer
2005-03-15 20:59               ` [Caml-list] " Manos Renieris
2005-03-05  9:46 ` [Caml-list] MinCaml: an educational compiler for tiny ML subset (documented in Japanese) Corey O'Connor
2005-03-05 12:01 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-03-05 16:45   ` Eijiro Sumii
2005-03-05 17:19 ` OT: " Richard Jones

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