From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA43BC32 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2FECrAR000713 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:54 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12168 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from saul.cis.upenn.edu (SAUL.CIS.upenn.edu [158.130.12.4]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2FECpMB013923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saul.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2FECmCP021505; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:12:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:12:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20050315.091248.68545374.eijiro_sumii@anet.ne.jp> To: caml-list@inria.fr Cc: sumii@saul.cis.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml troll on Slashdot From: Eijiro Sumii In-Reply-To: <1093.80.8.1.44.1110882854.squirrel@mail.irisa.fr> References: <42363A86.6010309@1969.ws> <20050315092502.GA19351@furbychan.cocan.org> <1093.80.8.1.44.1110882854.squirrel@mail.irisa.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 4236ED65.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 4236ED63.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 ocaml:01 eijiro:01 sumii:01 eijiro:01 sumii:01 trivial:01 ocaml:01 garbage:01 parametric:01 polymorphism:01 upenn:01 imperative:01 defined:01 data:02 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: > Perhaps his program is not good. > But he made a point. His experience say something > and I agree with many stuff he said. I don't think he says _anything_ correct except trivial facts (like his OCaml program is very slow:-) - but this is because it is written _extremely_ poorly). As we can see from the careful wording at caml.inria.fr (both the new one and the old one), OCaml is *not* defined as a functional language. In fact, it is good even at imperative/OO programming thanks to garbage collection, parametric polymorphism, data types, pattern matching, etc.! -- Eijiro Sumii (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~sumii/) Department of Computer and Information Science, University of Pennsylvania