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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:15:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605191315.33165.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <446D5E4A.8060005@akalin.cx>

On Friday 19 May 2006 06:57, Frederick Akalin wrote:
> I see.  This is a perfectly reasonable explanation.  I ended up just
> using Bigarrays of floats for now and converting from those to 3-d
> vectors on demand (what I need), but it would be nice to have a type
> that wraps around Array that can get around the 4M limit (using an array
> of arrays like someone suggested earlier).  It's sad, but I think 32-bit
> is going to be around for a while, and surely I can't be the only person
> to run up against this. :) Not that I mind writing such a library and
> releasing it.  I wonder if the Extlib guys would be interested...

If you want your code to be memory efficient then using 32-bit floats via big 
arrays would seem like a good idea. If you want your code to be fast then 
you'll want a monomorphic data structure to avoid the overhead of polymorphic 
function calls (which is often very significant on simple, numerical 
container types).

> > A better idea would be to determine exactly what data structure you need:
> > which abstract operations, what performance requirements, etc.  C++
> > and Lisp programmers tend to encode everything as arrays or lists,
> > respectively, but quite often these are not the best data structure
> > for the application of interest.
>
> I find your assertion surprising.  C++ and Common LISP are by no means
> lacking in standard data structures (and using bare arrays is
> discouraged in C++, as far as I know) and in my experience I haven't
> much seen C++ code that used arrays/vectors when not appropriate.

Yes, I would say that C and Fortran programmers overuse arrays because other 
data structures are prohibitively difficult to implement and reuse.

> In any case, in my application (a raytracer) I am reading in lists of
> numbers from a file representing the points of a mesh and the triangles
> that make up the mesh (represented by a list of indices into the mesh
> list).  A dynamically resizable, reasonable scalable array seems like
> the best data structure to use.

Why not use a list and then apply Array.of_list?

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
Objective CAML for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-19 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15 18:12 akalin
2006-05-15 18:22 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-15 20:32 ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-15 21:27   ` akalin
2006-05-15 22:51 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-16  0:48 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-16  9:57   ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-16 15:10     ` Markus Mottl
2006-05-16  8:01 ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-16  8:20   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-19 17:13     ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-19  5:57   ` Frederick Akalin
2006-05-19  6:21     ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 12:15     ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2006-05-19 19:36       ` akalin
2006-05-19 20:17         ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 16:28     ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-19 20:08       ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 21:26       ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20  1:06         ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:32           ` brogoff
2006-05-20 21:29             ` immutable strings II ([Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit) Oliver Bandel
2006-05-22 22:09               ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-20 21:11           ` immutable strings (Re: [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25  4:32             ` immutable strings (Re: " Stefan Monnier
2006-05-25  5:56               ` [Caml-list] " Martin Jambon
2006-05-25  7:23                 ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-25 10:22                   ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 19:28                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25 11:14                 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 19:42                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-26  6:51                   ` Alain Frisch
2006-05-25 17:31                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 19:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-25 11:18               ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 17:34                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 18:44                   ` Tom
2006-05-25 23:00                     ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 23:15                       ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-20  0:57       ` [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  1:17         ` Frederick Akalin
2006-05-20  1:52           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  9:08             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 10:12               ` skaller
2006-05-20 11:06                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 12:02                   ` skaller
2006-05-20 21:42                 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:24                   ` skaller
2006-05-21 14:10                     ` Oliver Bandel
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605200847530.10710@localhost.localdomain>
2006-05-20 19:52                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 21:45                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  9:26           ` Richard Jones
     [not found]             ` <5CE30707-5DCE-4A22-970E-A49C36F9C901@akalin.cx>
2006-05-22 10:40               ` Richard Jones
2006-05-20 10:51         ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 14:22           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:41             ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-20 19:37               ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20 20:47             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-26 18:34             ` Ken Rose
2006-05-20 22:07           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-20 15:15         ` Don Syme
2006-05-20 22:15           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:25             ` skaller

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