From: Oliver Bandel <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] To Dissect a Mockingbird
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:40:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060728144009.GB4250@first.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9C312333-30AB-4683-A3A9-8D54FEB438B8@iais.fraunhofer.de>
Hello,
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:15:54PM +0200, Dr. Axel Poign wrote:
> I am the happy owner of a copy of Spencer-Browns book which I got
> interested in in the early 70's. I actually found the book in
> Blackwell's in Oxford, where it was in the section "Religions" (nomen
> est omen?). Further I own a manuscript on "The Arithmetic of
> closure" by Francisco Varela
Can you send me a copy of this paper?
(scanned or as paper-copies)?!
(Or at least mention, where to find it (ISBN)?!)
> (then at the Department of Anatomy at
> the University of Colorado, Denver) who related Spencer-Brown to
> Scott's work, and finally as a more accessible reference:
>
> A Calculus for Self-Reference
> Francisco Varela
> Int. Journal General Systems, 1975, Vol.2, p.8-34
> Gordon and Breach Scientific Publishers Ltd.
> Great Britain
This one I have somewhere in my paper copies; I found this article
in a library.
But to understand it, I first have to jump into LoF-details.
Some poeple said they had to re-read this book many times,
until they really understand it.
I hope to be faster here ;-)
>
> The stuff is quite interesting reading for historical reasons.
Only for that reasons?
LoF seems to be - even if it's mentioned that it's a mathematical book - quite good
for philosophical reasoning, and makes sense in a cybernetics-context
(cybernetics, radical constructivism, Heinz von Foerster, Maturana, ...).
And therefore there is a linkage to Zen/Buddhism
(for example look at Heinz von Foerster's text "Objects: Tokens for Eigen-Behaviors",
in german: "Gegenstände: greifbare Symbole für (Eigen-)Verhalten").
Also interesting on this topic: Maturana's work.
But before we will be too off-topic, I will stop here. ;-)
Best,
Oliver Bandel
--
"Objectivity is a subject's delusion that
observing can be done without him."
(Heinz von Foerster)
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2006-07-29 12:44 ` [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
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