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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:30:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200701152130.44615.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0701151031020.6318@localhost>

On Monday 15 January 2007 20:23, Martin Jambon wrote:
> OCaml is well-enough designed so that there is no "common" syntax
> extension.

The camlp4-based syntax extension for lazy stream parsing could be considered 
a "common" extension because it is bundled with OCaml and is used by lots of 
people.

I used it in several of the tutorial papers on our site simply because it is 
the most succinct approach to parsing:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/free/ocaml/parsing.html
  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/free/ocaml/interpreter.html

It may be superceded by active patterns but I'd still like to see this syntax 
incorporated into OCaml itself.

> The problem is that people use it for a variety of things, and 
> each domain may benefit from particular enhancements of the syntax.

try ... finally is another syntax extension that I think would be welcomed by 
all.

> Either you incorporate all those extensions into the standard syntax,
> which is totally insane, or you consider them just as libraries.

I think there are several camlp4 syntax extensions that are sufficiently 
useful that we would all benefit from them being incorporated into the 
language.

> IMHO the problem is more that writing camlp4 syntax extensions is very
> different from writing everyday OCaml code. In other words,
> it is inaccessible to beginners,

I highly recommend this web page by some guy called Martin Jambon: ;-)

  http://martin.jambon.free.fr/extend-ocaml-syntax.html

Your page is really the only resource on the web that aims to elucidate 
camlp4. It is very good, but I still failed to write the syntax extension 
that I wanted (symbolic expressions as patterns).

> OK, there are many issues to solve, and it may not look as simple as
> advertised, but I am sure it can be done.

All good ideas.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
Objective CAML for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-15 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-13  5:37 Edgar Friendly
2007-01-13  5:56 ` [Caml-list] " Tom
2007-01-14 17:35   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 17:59     ` ketty
2007-01-14 18:21       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:29         ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-13  7:41 ` David Baelde
2007-01-13  9:31   ` ketty
2007-01-14 17:33   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:23     ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-14 18:41       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-14 20:49         ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-14 23:38           ` Gabriel Kerneis
2007-01-15  0:55             ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-15  6:12               ` skaller
2007-01-15  0:05           ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15  5:59             ` skaller
2007-01-15 20:23             ` Martin Jambon
2007-01-15 21:30               ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-01-15 22:13                 ` Try finally (was Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features) Daniel Bünzli
2007-01-15 22:27                   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 22:40                     ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-01-15 23:08                       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 22:17               ` [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16  1:18                 ` skaller
2007-01-16  2:11                   ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16  5:18                     ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16  6:36                       ` skaller
2007-01-16  6:33                     ` skaller
2007-01-16 13:55                     ` Brian Hurt
2007-01-16  9:00                   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 14:14                     ` skaller
2007-01-16 15:00                       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 17:47                         ` skaller
2007-01-16 19:24                           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-17  3:28                             ` skaller
2007-01-17 11:41                               ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-17 12:53                                 ` Olivier Andrieu
2007-01-17 13:18                                   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-17 14:09                                 ` skaller
2007-01-16 19:42                           ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16 21:15                             ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-17  3:46                             ` skaller
2007-01-17 11:50                               ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15  5:56           ` skaller
2007-01-15  9:35         ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-01-15 18:28           ` Martin Jambon
2007-01-15 19:02             ` ls-ocaml-developer-2006
2007-01-14 19:01       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:51     ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-14 20:49       ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-15  0:19         ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-20 19:19           ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-20 21:40             ` skaller
2007-01-14 21:47     ` Tom
2007-01-15 10:36 ` Richard Jones
2007-01-15 14:24   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16  8:45     ` Hendrik Tews
2007-01-16  9:08       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-21 17:07         ` [Caml-list] native-code stack backtraces (was: Ocaml compiler features) Xavier Leroy
2007-01-21 18:53           ` Pierre Etchemaïté
2007-01-16  5:21   ` [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16  5:33     ` ketty
2007-01-16  6:00       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16  6:10         ` ketty
2007-01-16  5:55     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-16 17:51       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 19:09         ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16 19:21         ` Brian Hurt
2007-01-16 20:06         ` Jonathan Roewen
2007-01-16 20:13         ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-16  6:51     ` skaller
2007-01-16 18:01       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-17  2:23         ` skaller
2007-01-16  8:00   ` Florian Hars

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