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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Polymorphic Variants
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:53:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200701172253.13837.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c1490a380701171313j7f54a420yd17d15164e52f9ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 17 January 2007 21:13, Tom wrote:
> Any comments?

Yes: I prefer things the way they are.

You can add overloading to ML but you must then add lots of type annotations 
to your code. For example, vector length:

  let length (x, y) = sqrt(x*.x +. y*.y)

becomes:

  let length (x : float, y : float) = sqrt(x*x + y*y)

So you've saved the "." three times at the cost of ": float" twice because the 
overloaded * and + don't provide enough type information. You can complicate 
the type inferer to counteract this but then other type errors will become 
increasingly obscure and the programmer will be forced to learn the quirks 
that you've added in order to debug their code.

Constructor overloading can be done in OCaml using polymorphic variants. They 
are slower. Code written in this style quickly becomes unmaintainable because 
the type errors (from inference) are so complicated that you are forced to 
annotate types.

Finally, I don't want my types discovered at run-time because it makes my code 
slower and uses more memory. I'd rather have to box manually, so fast code is 
concise code.

From my point of view, your suggestions are mostly steps backwards (towards 
Lisp, C++ etc.).

I think the best way to improve OCaml is to write an IDE that sidesteps these 
problems, e.g. by typesetting the code "+." as "+".

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
Objective CAML for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-17 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-16 20:32 Tom
2007-01-16 20:49 ` [Caml-list] " Seth J. Fogarty
2007-01-16 21:05   ` Tom
2007-01-16 21:23     ` Seth J. Fogarty
2007-01-16 21:45       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 22:18       ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2007-01-17  5:55       ` skaller
2007-01-17  0:30 ` Jonathan Roewen
2007-01-17  2:19 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2007-01-17  3:24   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-18  2:12     ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-17  6:09   ` skaller
2007-01-17 13:34     ` Andrej Bauer
2007-01-17 21:13   ` Tom
2007-01-17 22:53     ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-01-17 23:07       ` Tom
     [not found]         ` <200701172349.53331.jon@ffconsultancy.com>
     [not found]           ` <c1490a380701180407j670a7cccyb679c71fde20aa4b@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-18 16:23             ` Fwd: " Tom
2007-01-18 21:14               ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-19  9:26                 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-01-19 10:35                   ` Tom
2007-01-19 11:14                     ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-01-19 12:03                       ` Tom
2007-01-18 21:43       ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-18  1:28     ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-18  1:46       ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-18  4:05       ` skaller
2007-01-18  6:20         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-18  9:48           ` skaller
2007-01-18 12:23       ` Tom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-17  9:49 [Caml-list] Polymorphic variants John Max Skaller
2002-04-17 10:43 ` Remi VANICAT
2002-04-17 23:49   ` John Max Skaller
2002-04-18  1:23     ` Jacques Garrigue
2002-04-18  9:04       ` John Max Skaller

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