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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Teaching bottomline, part 3: what should improve.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:46:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705232246.14189.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4654959C.7040701@fischerventure.com>

On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:27:24 Robert C Fischer wrote:
> ...and locks and threads are not a viable long-term solution to the
> problem of concurrency in general.

Absolutely, that's why we have parallel iter, map, fold etc.

> You're future-proofing enough by teaching them functional languages

Functional programming is not a panacea. GUI programming is one application 
area where functional programming, immutability and the parallelizable 
constructs that I just mentioned are not so beneficial.

To solve GUI programming you need different constructs (events, message pumps 
etc.).

Look at some of the example F# programs on our site. This Sudoku solver uses a 
worker thread to keep the GUI responsive while it solves puzzles:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/dotnet/fsharp/sudoku/index.html

This ray tracer uses concurrency for incremental update of a responsive GUI:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/dotnet/fsharp/raytracer/index.html

This particle simulator runs the simulation thread in parallel with the GUI 
thread, for real-time visualization of the particle system:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/fsharp_for_visualization/demo3.html

In the future, I hope OCaml will support concurrency not only to handle 
parallel constructs but also to handle GUI programming elegantly. If there is 
one thing that I have been singularly impressed by from .NET, it is GUI 
programming.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
The F#.NET Journal
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/fsharp_journal/?e


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-23 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 22:10 David Teller
2007-05-22 22:22 ` [Caml-list] " William D. Neumann
2007-05-23 13:07   ` David Teller
2007-05-22 22:26 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-05-22 23:16 ` skaller
2007-05-23  2:46   ` David Thomas
2007-05-23  9:19   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-23 12:49     ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 13:36       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-05-23 14:06         ` skaller
2007-05-23 14:54       ` Florian Hars
2007-05-23 15:11         ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 21:48       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-24  8:04         ` Markus E.L.
2007-05-24  8:32           ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-24  9:51             ` skaller
2007-05-24 11:22               ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-23 13:55   ` David Teller
2007-05-22 23:19 ` skaller
2007-05-23 10:41   ` Richard Jones
2007-05-23 13:04     ` David Teller
2007-05-24 13:51       ` Richard Jones
2007-05-24 14:00         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-24 14:00       ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-24 14:20         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-24 14:34         ` David Teller
2007-05-24 14:21       ` skaller
2007-05-22 23:39 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-23 18:54   ` Richard Jones
2007-05-23 19:27     ` Robert C Fischer
2007-05-23 19:34       ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 19:54         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-23 21:46       ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-05-23 22:14         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-05-24  1:38           ` Revolution Jon Harrop
2007-05-24  2:40             ` [Caml-list] Revolution skaller
2007-05-24  3:21             ` Chris King
2007-05-24 14:24               ` David Teller
2007-05-24 13:40         ` [Caml-list] Teaching bottomline, part 3: what should improve Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 19:29     ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-23 20:20   ` David Teller
2007-05-24 14:18     ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-24 14:23     ` skaller

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