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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Execution time of class versus record
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:25:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706250425.28516.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <467EBD16.7060303@lix.polytechnique.fr>

On Sunday 24 June 2007 19:51:02 Arnaud Spiwack wrote:
> ...btw object coercion should never cost anything
> since they are merely type level tools...

Even in statically typed systems you might well want to shift work to run-time 
(e.g. specialization of all-float records/arrays) so I see no reason to 
expect coercion to be free.

> At runtime, I can't see anything to preven objects to be exactly records
> (with a bit of care taken during compilation for method names).

How can the current representation of records handle virtual method dispatch?

> John 
> Skaller's answer is not really convincing either, since the type of a
> value does not change the size of the value, having the same name
> associated to different types does not seem to me a good motivation.

I think this choice makes OCaml's object system more orthogonal to the rest of 
the language.

> Another lead is maybe something due to module compilation, the
> earlier idea might imply that each module has it's own namespace (it's
> the case for almost everything in OCaml, except, if I'm not mistaking,
> method names

and polymorphic variants.

> If it is the motivation for having a runtime 
> representation of objects different to that of records, the question
> that raises nex is: what is the motivation for not having
> module-specific namespaces for method names?

If I have two modules containing two classes and I want them to be related, 
how can you implement that with structurally-subtyped OO if method names are 
local to modules?

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
The OCaml Journal
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_journal/?e


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-25  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24 15:14 tmp123
2007-06-24 15:29 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-06-24 15:48   ` Till Varoquaux
2007-06-24 16:06     ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-06-24 18:18       ` skaller
2007-06-24 18:29       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-06-24 18:51         ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-06-24 19:11           ` Chris King
2007-06-25  3:25           ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-06-25 11:16             ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-06-25 12:07               ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-25 23:59                 ` Jonathan Bryant
2007-06-26  0:15                   ` Chris King
2007-06-26  6:53                     ` Loup Vaillant
2007-06-26  7:02                       ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-26 17:07                         ` Loup Vaillant
2007-06-28  1:13                 ` Christian Stork
2007-06-26 13:35 ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-26 16:29   ` [Caml-list] " Quôc Peyrot

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