* ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
@ 2007-08-04 15:09 Richard Jones
2007-08-05 1:08 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
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From: Richard Jones @ 2007-08-04 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
I thought people might be interested to know how OCaml in Fedora & Red
Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) is getting along.
We had the packaging guidelines approved about 6 weeks ago which
allowed packages to start being reviewed
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/OCaml). Since then we have
rebased to OCaml 3.10.0 and packaged up the following: ocamlsdl,
camlimages, ocurl, expat, extlib, findlib, lablgl, lablgtk2, pcre,
ocaml-ssl and ulex.
The following packages are still at various stages in the development
or review process: calendar, ocamlnet, cduce, coq, PXP, ocaml-csv.
Interested in joining? Add your name to our SIG:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/OCaml
Want to suggest a package for inclusion in Fedora? Please email me.
To use the packages, enable the Fedora Development repository
(/etc/yum.repos.d/development.repo) and just 'yum install ocaml...'
The complete list of OCaml packages and their versions is shown below.
Rich.
ocaml-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-SDL-0.7.2-7.fc7.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-SDL-devel-0.7.2-7.fc7.i386.rpm
ocaml-SDL-devel-0.7.2-7.fc7.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-camlimages-2.2.0-8.fc7.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-camlimages-devel-2.2.0-8.fc7.i386.rpm
ocaml-camlimages-devel-2.2.0-8.fc7.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-camlp4-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-camlp4-devel-3.10.0-1.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-camlp4-devel-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-curl-0.2.1-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-curl-devel-0.2.1-3.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-curl-devel-0.2.1-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-docs-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-emacs-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-expat-0.9.1-4.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-expat-devel-0.9.1-4.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-expat-devel-0.9.1-4.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-extlib-1.5-5.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-extlib-devel-1.5-5.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-extlib-devel-1.5-5.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-findlib-1.1.2pl1-10.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-findlib-devel-1.1.2pl1-10.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-findlib-devel-1.1.2pl1-10.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-lablgl-1.02-12.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-lablgl-devel-1.02-12.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-lablgl-devel-1.02-12.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-lablgtk-2.6.0-8.20060908cvs.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-lablgtk-devel-2.6.0-8.20060908cvs.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-lablgtk-devel-2.6.0-8.20060908cvs.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-lablgtk-doc-2.6.0-8.20060908cvs.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-labltk-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-labltk-devel-3.10.0-1.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-labltk-devel-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-ocamldoc-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-pcre-5.11.4-6.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-pcre-devel-5.11.4-6.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-pcre-devel-5.11.4-6.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-runtime-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-source-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-ssl-0.4.2-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-ssl-devel-0.4.2-3.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-ssl-devel-0.4.2-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-ulex-1.0-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-ulex-devel-1.0-3.fc8.i386.rpm
ocaml-ulex-devel-1.0-3.fc8.x86_64.rpm
ocaml-x11-3.10.0-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
--
Richard Jones
Red Hat
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-04 15:09 ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora Richard Jones
@ 2007-08-05 1:08 ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-05 2:48 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-08-05 3:32 ` skaller
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jon Harrop @ 2007-08-05 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Saturday 04 August 2007 16:09:59 Richard Jones wrote:
> I thought people might be interested to know how OCaml in Fedora & Red
> Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) is getting along.
>
> We had the packaging guidelines approved about 6 weeks ago which
> allowed packages to start being reviewed
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/OCaml). Since then we have
> rebased to OCaml 3.10.0 and packaged up the following: ocamlsdl,
> camlimages, ocurl, expat, extlib, findlib, lablgl, lablgtk2, pcre,
> ocaml-ssl and ulex.
> ...
I don't believe the Debian packages for 3.10 have filtered through but I was
so desperate to use the awesome new natdynlink branch that upgraded to that
from CVS and rebuilt almost all packages from the existing Debian source
packages with:
apt-get --build source foo
Most packages work like this right out of the box.
--
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
OCaml for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 1:08 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
@ 2007-08-05 2:48 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-08-05 3:32 ` skaller
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Zacchiroli @ 2007-08-05 2:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:08:01AM +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> I don't believe the Debian packages for 3.10 have filtered through but I was
Actually, they are available in experimental. A summary page of what's
going on in Debian wrt OCaml versions is available at:
http://sockmel.bononia.it/~zack/ocaml-debian-status/debian-ocaml-status.html
What is stopping a full migration to unstable is that some major OCaml
related packages haven't yet been ported by the respective author to
OCaml 3.10 and are experiencing CamlP4-related incompatibilities.
> so desperate to use the awesome new natdynlink branch that upgraded to that
> from CVS and rebuilt almost all packages from the existing Debian source
> packages with:
FWIW, all OCaml related packages in Debian should have a Vcs-Svn field
pointing to the subversion repository we are using for maintenance (you
can see it with "apt-get showsrc"). There you can find the current
working version of the Debian package.
Cheers.
--
Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science ............... now what?
zack@{cs.unibo.it,debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/
(15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ? /\ All one has to do is hit the
(15:57:15) Bac: no, la demo scema \/ right keys at the right time
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 1:08 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-08-05 2:48 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
@ 2007-08-05 3:32 ` skaller
2007-08-05 4:31 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: skaller @ 2007-08-05 3:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jon Harrop; +Cc: caml-list
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 02:08 +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> apt-get --build source foo
>
> Most packages work like this right out of the box.
Oh yea, and apt is so Advanced a Package Tool .. it even
understands source build dependencies .. NOT!
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 3:32 ` skaller
@ 2007-08-05 4:31 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-08-05 10:09 ` skaller
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Erik de Castro Lopo @ 2007-08-05 4:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
skaller wrote:
> Oh yea, and apt is so Advanced a Package Tool .. it even
> understands source build dependencies .. NOT!
apt-get build-dep <package>
Erik
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2007-08-05 4:31 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
@ 2007-08-05 10:09 ` skaller
2007-08-05 10:12 ` Richard Jones
2007-08-05 10:38 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: skaller @ 2007-08-05 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Erik de Castro Lopo; +Cc: caml-list
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 14:31 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> skaller wrote:
>
> > Oh yea, and apt is so Advanced a Package Tool .. it even
> > understands source build dependencies .. NOT!
>
> apt-get build-dep <package>
Nope. There's no way to do it. This simply tries to install the
*binary* packages required. You can't autobuild dependencies
with apt, I've already investigated this.
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 10:09 ` skaller
@ 2007-08-05 10:12 ` Richard Jones
2007-08-05 11:21 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-08-05 10:38 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Jones @ 2007-08-05 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 08:09:17PM +1000, skaller wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 14:31 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> > skaller wrote:
> >
> > > Oh yea, and apt is so Advanced a Package Tool .. it even
> > > understands source build dependencies .. NOT!
> >
> > apt-get build-dep <package>
>
> Nope. There's no way to do it. This simply tries to install the
> *binary* packages required. You can't autobuild dependencies
> with apt, I've already investigated this.
I guess that apt isn't Gentoo portage.
Even having this facility isn't going to help you much if you are
trying to upgrade to OCaml 3.10 because you still have to do the
manual work to fix camlp4 changes.
BTW: Debian people: I've done ocamlnet to 3.10 using a grotesque hack.
I wonder if anyone has worked on PXP?
Rich.
--
Richard Jones
Red Hat
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 10:12 ` Richard Jones
@ 2007-08-05 11:21 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Zacchiroli @ 2007-08-05 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Inria Ocaml Mailing List
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:12:50AM +0100, Richard Jones wrote:
> BTW: Debian people: I've done ocamlnet to 3.10 using a grotesque hack.
We are using camlp5 for ocamlnet and it works properly.
> I wonder if anyone has worked on PXP?
PXP is a bit more tricky since it requires ulex which, if built with the
latest camlp4, is (of course) incompatible with camlp5. The current plan
is to ship two ulex packages: 1.0 built with new camlp4 and 0.8 built
with camlp5. Then PXP should be buildable with the combination ulex 0.8
+ camlp5. The "shuold" is because I haven't yet tried it out.
Cheers.
--
Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science ............... now what?
zack@{cs.unibo.it,debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/
(15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ? /\ All one has to do is hit the
(15:57:15) Bac: no, la demo scema \/ right keys at the right time
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* Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: Status of OCaml in Fedora
2007-08-05 10:09 ` skaller
2007-08-05 10:12 ` Richard Jones
@ 2007-08-05 10:38 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Erik de Castro Lopo @ 2007-08-05 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
skaller wrote:
> Nope. There's no way to do it. This simply tries to install the
> *binary* packages required. You can't autobuild dependencies
> with apt, I've already investigated this.
Debian apt is designed to be a *binary* package installer.
If you want to build all your packages from source your should
be running Gentoo or one of the other source distributions.
Erik
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