I'm looking for an OCaml book

I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Fabrice Marchant]

  Hello !

  It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english :
I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French residents.
I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
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  Parce que, importation des States -> frais et taxes.

  Savez-vous où je pourrais acheter le bouquin - même d'occasion -, s'il vous plaît ?
(Pas l'emprunter à la B.U..)

J'ai contacté de grandes librairies techniques sans succès. Je me débrouille peut-être mal mais cela fait un moment que je suis sur le coup ...

  Merci d'avance.

 Fabrice
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OCaml : le langage fait par des français qui parlent anglais.

Reference on the OCaml VM

[Mathias Kende]

Hello

I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other than
the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml website.
My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
runtime systems.

Thank you.
Mathias

Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM

[forum]

Le 23 sept. 07 à 23:38, Mathias Kende a écrit :

> Hello
>
> I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other  
> than
> the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml  
> website.
> My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
> runtime systems.

While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this  
information.
I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/ 
downloads.html :
	- caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and the  
bytecode file format;
	- caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the  
OCaml VM.

Hope this helps,

Xavier


PS: I would be happy to hear about every mistake you find in these  
documents

Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM

[Gordon Henriksen]

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On 2007-09-24, at 05:29, forum@x9c.fr wrote:

> Le 23 sept. 07 à 23:38, Mathias Kende a écrit :
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other  
>> than
>> the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml  
>> website.
>> My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
>> runtime systems.
>
> While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this  
> information.
> I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/ 
> downloads.html :
> 	- caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and  
> the bytecode file format;
> 	- caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the  
> OCaml VM.

Xavier,

Nicely done.

— Gordon


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Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM

[Mathias Kende]

Le lundi 24 septembre 2007 à 11:29 +0200, forum@x9c.fr a écrit :
> While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this  
> information.
> I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/ 
> downloads.html :
> 	- caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and the  
> bytecode file format;
> 	- caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the  
> OCaml VM.

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. Someone also gave a
link to this page in an answer not forwarded to the list (I send it here
for references):
http://cristal.inria.fr/~lebotlan/docaml_html/french/ or
http://cristal.inria.fr/~lebotlan/docaml_html/english/

Mathias

Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Dominique Martinet]

On 23/09/2007, Fabrice Marchant <fabricemarchant@free.fr> wrote:
>   Hello !
>
>   It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english :
> I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French residents.
> I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Parce que, importation des States -> frais et taxes.
>
>   Savez-vous où je pourrais acheter le bouquin - même d'occasion -, s'il vous plaît ?
> (Pas l'emprunter à la B.U..)
>
> J'ai contacté de grandes librairies techniques sans succès. Je me débrouille peut-être mal mais cela fait un moment que je suis sur le coup ...
>
>   Merci d'avance.
>
>  Fabrice
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> OCaml : le langage fait par des français qui parlent anglais.
>
> _______________________________________________

A quick google search (looking for '"Ocaml for scientists" france')
yeilded a single result of the editor's site -
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/ -, saying
that you can get it at "Le Monde en Tique" (
http://www.lmet.fr/fiche.cgi?_ISBN=9780FLYING002&_WORDS=objective%20caml
)

I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
"only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
better :)


(Sorry for not answering in French, but as you've written, ocaml's a
French-speaking-English thing ;) )

Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Fabrice Marchant]

  Thanks a lot Dominique and Jon !

"Dominique wrote:"
> I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
> "only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
> better :)

  A bug in my brain : for months I was sure to have read $85 instead of 85 pound sterling !

"Jon wrote:"
> However, you mention taxes and, although I do 
> not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any
> taxes are incurred because we are both within the EU.

  I believed it was 85 $ and then, seeing a higher french price and trying to explain the difference, I imagined huge taxes or exportation shipping cost.

> I would like to offer you a discounted copy of OCaml for Scientists at only £60.
> If you accept, I only ask that you write positive things about my book
> (assuming you like it!).

I cheerfully accept and promise, but in french, if you agree.
(I think to write a page explaining why I fall for Caml and forget C++. Can add another one about the lot of interesting things I'll discover in your book.)

Will contact you in private mail for this preferential order !

Regards,

 Fabrice

Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Orlin Grigorov]

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Hey, guys,

Any idea how I can get hold of "OCaml for Scientists" in Canada?

Thanks,

Orlin

On 9/25/07, Fabrice Marchant <fabrice.marchant@orange.fr> wrote:
>
>   Thanks a lot Dominique and Jon !
>
> "Dominique wrote:"
> > I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
> > "only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
> > better :)
>
>   A bug in my brain : for months I was sure to have read $85 instead of 85
> pound sterling !
>
> "Jon wrote:"
> > However, you mention taxes and, although I do
> > not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any
> > taxes are incurred because we are both within the EU.
>
>   I believed it was 85 $ and then, seeing a higher french price and trying
> to explain the difference, I imagined huge taxes or exportation shipping
> cost.
>
> > I would like to offer you a discounted copy of OCaml for Scientists at
> only £60.
> > If you accept, I only ask that you write positive things about my book
> > (assuming you like it!).
>
> I cheerfully accept and promise, but in french, if you agree.
> (I think to write a page explaining why I fall for Caml and forget C++.
> Can add another one about the lot of interesting things I'll discover in
> your book.)
>
> Will contact you in private mail for this preferential order !
>
> Regards,
>
> Fabrice
>
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Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Jon Harrop]

On Wednesday 26 September 2007 04:39:15 Orlin Grigorov wrote:
> Hey, guys,
>
> Any idea how I can get hold of "OCaml for Scientists" in Canada?

We deliver direct to customers all over the world. Just order from this page:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e

Incidentally, if anyone in Antartica wants a copy then I'll give you one for 
free just so that I can claim to have copies in all continents. ;-)

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
OCaml for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e

Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book

[Jon Harrop]

On Sunday 23 September 2007 18:49:33 Fabrice Marchant wrote:
>   Hello !
>
>   It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english:

You probably mean "imperfect English". The phrase "naughty English" makes it 
sound like you've only mastered the phrase "sucky sucky ten dollar". ;-)

> I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French
> residents. I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's
> free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------------------------ Parce que, importation des States -> frais et
> taxes.

To the best of my knowledge, my book is only resold in France by Le Monde en 
Tique, as Dominique mentioned. However, you mention taxes and, although I do 
not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any taxes are 
incurred because we are both within the EU.

As an aside, OCaml for Scientists is still our best-selling product and we 
shipped £1,000 worth of OCaml for Scientists a single week last month 
following this wonderful blog post:

  http://www.uncarved.com

Sounds like an OCaml in Finance book is sorely needed! :-)

Let me know if you need any more specific OCaml resources and I'll do my best 
to create them.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
OCaml for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e