From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,MISSING_HEADERS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28762BBCA for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:20:48 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALL1tEfBMjI+n2dsb2JhbACBWY5yAQEBAQEGBAYJCBidbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,357,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="7347337" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2008 11:20:48 +0100 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1FAKlFH014988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:20:47 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALL1tEfBMjI+n2dsb2JhbACBWY5yAQEBAQEGBAYJCBidbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,357,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="7347336" Received: from haydn2002.u-bourgogne.fr ([193.50.50.62]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2008 11:20:47 +0100 Received: from alcazar.inria.fr (guesdon@hydroptere.u-bourgogne.fr [193.52.236.56]) by haydn2002.u-bourgogne.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1FAKko0029365 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:20:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:01 +0100 From: Maxence Guesdon Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: [OSR] Ports-like package management system Message-ID: <20080215112401.10ae8743@alcazar.inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <47B55F96.1020701@exalead.com> References: <479F0664.2070706@exalead.com> <1202892353.6427.4.camel@Blefuscu> <47B2CAF8.1040208@exalead.com> <20080215091325.5cfdf2cf@alcazar.inria.fr> <47B55F96.1020701@exalead.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 47B5677F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Miltered: at haydn02.u-bourgogne.fr with ID 47B5677E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 193.50.50.62 X-Spam: no; 0.00; maxence:01 guesdon:01 maxence:01 guesdon:01 berke:01 durak:01 berke:01 durak:01 humps:01 wget:01 humps:01 ocaml:01 model:01 contribs:01 wrote:01 On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:47:02 +0100 Berke Durak wrote: > Maxence Guesdon a =E9crit : > > Berke Durak wrote: > >> Most links on the Humps are dead. For instance, > >> I can't find a copy of Baire. > >=20 > > Sorry, buy I can't let you say that, because it's wrong. I made a quick > > check (using wget) of the urls associated to each contributions of the = caml > > humps. >=20 > I should have said "many" instead of "most" but then you wouldn't bother > writing to the list :) It was a good occasion to pass the message "do not forget to warn caml-hump about modifications" ;-) > > The quality of the links of the hump depends on the information I can = gather > > from announces on caml-list and mails to caml-hump@inria.fr. I don't c= rawl > > the web all the day to find new or updated contributions. >=20 > I appreciate the humps for being a nicely organized and aesthetically- > pleasant official place to put Ocaml stuff, and I know it's your work tha= t made it that way. >=20 > However, the model where one person updates the entries for hundreds of c= ontributions can't > and doesn't scale and you just gave numbers proving it. Do you really wa= nt to spend your > days updating link entries? I don't want you to. You have better things= to do. >=20 > Why not just allow contributors to update their fields, in the LinkDB way? > You can of course keep moderating and ensuring that there is no spam or m= isclassifications. It's just to keep it consistent, and the number of adds/updates is not high, so the time spent on administrating the hump is by far shorter than the time it would take to develop a registering system and moderate the modifications. > Having that permanent archive we are talking about is also part of the so= lution. I agree. The hump does not aim to be any kind of repository, just a list of links with some order. If/when an official place with files and classification where to find all contribs existed/exists, the hump would/will be useless. Maxence