From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C88BBB7 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:04:18 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAEABevikjAXQInYWdsb2JhbACSRBcFBgYUmz8D X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,255,1215381600"; d="scan'208";a="15525042" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2008 14:04:18 +0200 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6QC4Fid003739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:04:18 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYAABevikjLOwFrj2dsb2JhbACSTgEBAQEODxEEmzsD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,255,1215381600"; d="scan'208";a="15481138" Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.107]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2008 14:04:13 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABevikjLzuai/2dsb2JhbACuPwM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,255,1215360000"; d="scan'208";a="346617529" Received: from unknown (HELO hendrix.mega-nerd.net) ([203.206.230.162]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2008 20:04:10 +0800 Received: from hendrix (hendrix [192.168.200.99]) by hendrix.mega-nerd.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E927FAB602 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:07:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:07:55 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] New Ocaml Plug-in for NetBeans Message-Id: <20080726220755.9232fa7f.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> In-Reply-To: <200807261240.10757.jon@ffconsultancy.com> References: <1217062966.488ae8367f0d2@webmail.inescporto.pt> <20080726200312.7cfde7ef.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> <200807261240.10757.jon@ffconsultancy.com> Reply-To: caml-list@inria.fr Organization: Erik Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 488B12BF.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 ocaml:01 nedit:01 nedit:01 mli:01 mli:01 guis:01 plug-in:98 whip:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 unix:01 unix:01 caml-list:01 minor:01 Jon Harrop wrote: > On Saturday 26 July 2008 11:03:12 Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > > The same can be said for the Unix IDE, but the UNIX IDE is 100 > > times more flexible and more capable than any other IDE in > > existance. > > Yet we cannot even get basic documentation about potential completions from > any Unix development environment for OCaml. Completions annoyed me immensely in visual studio and the Adobe's products. > > I know Make well enough to whip up a complex make file in minutes. > > Yet Make is not expressive enough so we have OMake, OCamlBuild. I find Make expressive enough. I don't use these others. > I assume nedit does not even have basic type throwback, let alone > documentation throwback? There are ways of getting this to work with nedit but I never bothered because I don't like it. If I need documentation I read the mli files. With bash command line completion in an xterm I can find the one I want in a second and I keep it open in a nedit window and then alt-tab between the window I'm editing and the mli file I'm reading. Sometimes I stick the two side by side. > Diversifying to Windows has certainly shown me just how far behind Unix is in > terms of usability, productivity and modern computing environments like GUIs. You sound like someone who never mastered Unix, someone who never realised that each user needs to mould Unix to their needs rather than accepting what Unix provides as a default. Erik -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo ----------------------------------------------------------------- "PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil perpetrated by skilled but perverted professionals." -- Jon Ribbens