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From: Jon Harrop <jonathandeanharrop@googlemail.com>
To: "Nicolas Pouillard" <nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Metaprogramming features
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:36:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810071636.43288.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1223383737-sup-3904@ausone.local>

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:49:29 you wrote:
> Excerpts from jonathandeanharrop's message of Tue Oct 07 02:17:13 +0200 
2008:
> > Surely the discrepancy is because the translation should be:
> >
> >   let npower7 =
> >     let e = printf "power\n"; npower 7 (fun () -> x) in
> >     (fun () -> fun x -> e ()) ();;
>
> Hum "unbound value x" :)

Oh yeah. :-)

I hadn't noticed that you can do:

# .< fun x -> .~ .<x>. >.;;
- : ('a, 'b -> 'b) code = .<fun x_1 -> x_1>.

Which seems to be the source of my confusion. So "x" is bound inside the 
escaped code even though it was defined in the "fun x ->" of the bracketed 
code.

You are not allowed to do:

# .< fun x -> .~ x >.;;
Wrong level: variable bound at level 1 and used at level 0

That means a faithful translation into closures must capture such bound 
variables which will, in turn, defer the expression that does the 
constructing:

  let e x = printf "power\n"; npower 7 (fun () -> x)

and that now fails to incur side-effects at the same time as the MetaOCaml 
program.

So the translation from MetaOCaml to OCaml is not obvious at all.

This begs the question: could another formulation of MetaOCaml avoid these 
complications without losing expressiveness?

-- 
Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-07 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-03 14:34 Jacques Carette
2008-10-03 15:09 ` [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2008-10-04  2:00   ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-04  9:03     ` David Teller
2008-10-04 14:22       ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-06 14:06     ` Brian Hurt
2008-10-06 15:56       ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-06 16:46         ` Chung-chieh Shan
2008-10-07  0:17           ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-10-07 12:49             ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-10-07 15:36               ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2008-10-07 16:31                 ` Jacques Carette
2008-10-03 16:01 ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-10-03 21:14   ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-10-04  2:17   ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-04  9:10     ` David Teller
2008-10-04  0:49 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-10-04  2:03   ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-04  8:23     ` Richard Jones
2008-10-04 14:31       ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-04 13:57         ` Richard Jones
2008-10-04 19:41           ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-04 19:04             ` Richard Jones
2008-10-05  1:05               ` Jon Harrop
2008-10-06 16:54               ` Chung-chieh Shan

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