From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C458EBB84 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:39:33 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArQCANe0HknUnw6RYGdsb2JhbACCO5ERFQ0IBhQEuX+CeQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,611,1220220000"; d="scan'208";a="19993185" Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net ([212.159.14.145]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2008 20:39:33 +0100 Received: from [87.112.54.120] (helo=leper.local) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1L1QzU-0005TB-PA for caml-list@yquem.inria.fr; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:39:32 +0000 From: Jon Harrop Organization: Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] What does Jane Street use/want for an IDE? What about you? Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:41:55 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200810200919.41561.ober.14@osu.edu> <200811151302.53813.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <20081115122516.GA16261@annexia.org> In-Reply-To: <20081115122516.GA16261@annexia.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811152041.55416.jon@ffconsultancy.com> X-Plusnet-Relay: 5bb49a1e132f4a973d6f0f905b127411 X-Spam: no; 0.00; renderer:01 frog:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 graph:01 caml-list:01 define:02 objects:02 widget:03 opengl:03 programming:03 gui:03 gui:03 guess:04 expose:04 On Saturday 15 November 2008 12:25:17 Richard Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 01:02:53PM +0000, Jon Harrop wrote: > > ...design that centers around a single unified renderer and unified > > (and safe!) representation ... > > Huh? Guess you've not used compiz then? Compiz does not provide a unified rendering pipeline for GUI programming, it just composes pixmaps into OpenGL textures. > Linux has had it since before 2005 and it's so annoying I always turn it > off. Yes, the value is in a unified foundation and not the wobbly windows. For example, WPF allows you to define custom 3D objects and use them interoperably within the GUI framework. The contents of any widget may be any scene graph. They expose the same events and so on. -- Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e