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From: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
To: "Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen" <mikkel@dvide.com>
Cc: David Rajchenbach-Teller <David.Teller@ens-lyon.org>,
	OCaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Batteries Included, alpha 3
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:22:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090208172223.GB31948@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <caee5ad80902070621v3771af6cu5cfc692ca37a7fec@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:21:17PM +0100, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen wrote:
> I think the build system is extremely important, just after library support.
> 
> I believe the success of "scripting" and especially dynamic typing is
> that you can just write some code and run it. Rarely do have to
> consider make files etc. Of course, the problem sometimes just
> multiplies so all end users have to deal with installing the proper
> libraries, but this is partially offset by having good standard
> libraries.

Please don't write yet another build system to fix perceived problems
with current ones.  You'll just end up with N+1 build systems, making
the choice even more confusing than now.  And I guarantee that your
new build system won't work for some combination of {cross-
compilation, Windows, AIX, PowerPC-64} user, which means it'll be
strictly less useful than autotools which has nearly 20 years of
development and experience behind it.

Instead: write better documentation for existing build systems.

For example, everyone loves to hate autoconf (me included), but in
actual fact you only have to write two files containing under 10 lines
of code in each, to make a complete build environment for an OCaml
program under autotools.  This fact probably isn't obvious, because
nowhere is it documented.

So a good task would be to document this[1].

Similarly, plain Makefiles are easy to do, including working
dependencies.  Just needs to be documented.

Rich.

[1] A good place to start would be
http://www.annexia.org/tmp/ocaml-mingw-gtk

-- 
Richard Jones
Red Hat


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-08 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-06 16:11 David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-02-07 14:21 ` [Caml-list] " Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2009-02-07 14:43   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-02-07 14:58     ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-02-07 15:13       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-02-07 16:13         ` [Caml-list] " Matthieu Dubuget
2009-02-07 19:30           ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2009-02-07 21:13             ` Matthieu Dubuget
2009-02-09  9:36           ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 15:56             ` David Teller
2009-02-07 15:46       ` Paolo Donadeo
2009-02-09  9:32       ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 10:30         ` ocamlbuild documentation (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: [ANN] OCaml Batteries Included, alpha 3) Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 11:51           ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 12:30             ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 12:52               ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 13:07                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 13:22                   ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 13:36                     ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 13:59                       ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 14:04                         ` Romain Bardou
2009-02-09 14:37                           ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 17:26                             ` Kuba Ober
2009-02-09 18:28                         ` Jon Harrop
2009-02-09 21:24                           ` DooMeeR
2009-02-10 14:06                             ` ocamlbuild documentation Jan Kybic
2009-02-10 14:27                               ` [Caml-list] " Matthieu Dubuget
     [not found]                                 ` <87k57ywc0k.fsf@fel.cvut.cz>
2009-02-10 15:50                                   ` Matthieu Dubuget
2009-02-10 15:58                                     ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-09 18:38                     ` ocamlbuild documentation (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: [ANN] OCaml Batteries Included, alpha 3) David Teller
2009-02-09 22:02         ` [Caml-list] Re: [ANN] OCaml Batteries Included, alpha 3 Peter Hawkins
2009-02-09 22:45           ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2009-02-09 22:55             ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2009-02-10  7:48             ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-02-10 13:22               ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2009-02-07 20:04     ` Daniel Bünzli
2009-02-08 17:22   ` Richard Jones [this message]
2009-02-09  8:57     ` [Caml-list] " David Allsopp

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