From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_FAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5635BC37 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:05:01 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYEAKe7oEpQRFuwWWdsb2JhbACbNQEWFQS9eYQbBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,332,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="46027209" Received: from furbychan.cocan.org ([80.68.91.176]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2009 16:05:00 +0200 Received: from rich by furbychan.cocan.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MjZPM-00066Z-H3; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:04:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:04:56 +0100 To: Gaius Hammond Cc: Jon Harrop , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Why don't you use batteries? Message-ID: <20090904140456.GB22690@annexia.org> References: <32407.45042.qm@web111512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <200909040108.32259.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <1B100014-CAA0-48A0-96CE-3C615ED36F81@gaius.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1B100014-CAA0-48A0-96CE-3C615ED36F81@gaius.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Richard Jones X-Spam: no; 0.00; 0100,:01 ocaml:01 apt-get:01 activestate:01 ocaml:01 orthogonal:01 2009:98 1.0:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 caml-list:01 interfaces:01 interfaces:01 argument:02 standardized:02 On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:39:25AM +0100, Gaius Hammond wrote: > On 4 Sep 2009, at 01:08, Jon Harrop wrote: > > >I would very much like to learn batteries and write OCaml Journal > >articles > >about it. The main reason I have not is not just that it has not > >reached 1.0 > >yet but that it is not a mere "apt-get install" away for most users. > > > This (for example) is what other language communities count as > "batteries included": > > http://www.activestate.com/activepython/ Which brings us back to the argument when Batteries was orginally proposed: For some reason, some users are unable to use 'apt-get', or the corresponding clicky interfaces. For those users, either they need to be taught how to use the clicky interfaces, or, if they are on certain OSes which lack packaging systems, one can provide a fat OCaml package with lots of libraries. However this problem is completely orthogonal to the problem of providing a core, consistent and standardized library. Rich. -- Richard Jones Red Hat