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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OC4MC : OCaml for Multicore architectures
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:09:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200909242209.50565.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090924164933.GA5637@annexia.org>

On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:49:33 Richard Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 02:09:56PM +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > Fair enough. I think this is the single most important development OCaml
> > has seen since its inception so I would personally drop OCaml in favor of
> > oc4mc even if it meant reverting to 3.10.2.
>
> I think 'personally' is the key word there. You forget that people 
> are quite happily programming in very slow languages like Perl,
> Python, Ruby and Visual Basic,

Visual Basic has been a *lot* faster than OCaml for several years now, not 
least because it makes efficient multicore programming easy. Even Python is 
beating OCaml on benchmarks now:

http://flyingfrogblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/f-vs-ocaml-vs-haskell-hash-table.html

Even if that were not the case, the idea of cherry picking interpreted 
scripting languages to compete with because OCaml has fallen so far behind 
mainstream languages (let alone modern languages) is embarrassing. What's 
next, OCaml vs Bash for your high performance needs?

> and those people vastly outnumber the ones using F#, Haskell, OCaml, SML
> etc.  (They don't even have static safety, dammit!).

If you want to draw aspirations based upon popularity, look at the most 
popular languages: Java and C#. They are far more popular than OCaml for many 
reasons but parallel threads to make efficient multicore programming easy is 
a big one.

-- 
Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-24 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-22 21:30 Philippe Wang
2009-09-23 10:53 ` [Caml-list] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-09-23 12:21   ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-23 13:00     ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-23 14:26       ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24  0:21   ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-23 23:15     ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24  0:05       ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24  0:01         ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24  1:47           ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24  9:49             ` Richard Jones
2009-09-24 10:00               ` rixed
2009-09-24 10:40               ` Florian Hars
2009-09-24 11:45               ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 10:00             ` kcheung
2009-09-24 11:52               ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 11:55                 ` Rakotomandimby Mihamina
2009-09-24 12:11                 ` rixed
2009-09-24 15:58                   ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 12:39                 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-09-24 13:09                   ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 16:49                     ` Richard Jones
2009-09-24 16:56                       ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 17:36                         ` Richard Jones
2009-09-24 19:39                         ` rixed
2009-09-24 21:09                       ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2009-09-24 21:26                         ` rixed
2009-09-25  4:07                         ` Jacques Garrigue
2009-09-25  7:32                           ` Hugo Ferreira
2009-09-25 10:17                             ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-25 13:04                               ` kcheung
2009-09-25 21:39                             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2009-09-25  9:33                           ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-25 21:39                           ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-26 16:55                             ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-25  8:08                         ` Stéphane Glondu
2009-09-25 15:05                     ` Xavier Leroy
2009-09-25 23:26                       ` Benjamin Canou
2009-09-26  0:45                         ` kcheung
2009-09-26  1:53                           ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-26 13:51                             ` kcheung
2009-09-26 14:46                               ` Jon Harrop
2009-10-10  4:01                         ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 13:40                   ` Rakotomandimby Mihamina
2009-09-24 14:22                     ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 14:49                     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-09-24 13:55                   ` Mike Lin
2009-09-24 14:52                     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-09-24 15:36                 ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 15:50                   ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 12:14             ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 13:11               ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 14:51                 ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 14:57       ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 14:11 ` Dario Teixeira
2009-09-24 14:38   ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-24 15:20     ` Dario Teixeira
2009-09-24 23:28     ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 23:25       ` Philippe Wang
2009-09-25 14:11       ` Philippe Wang
2009-11-08 18:12       ` Jon Harrop
2009-09-24 18:24 ` David Teller
     [not found] <20090924154716.BCD0ABC5A@yquem.inria.fr>
2009-09-24 16:02 ` Pascal Cuoq
2009-09-24 16:30   ` Philippe Wang

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