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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] about OcamIL
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 08:18:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100516081854.f9e02b8d.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikq07s52fNHFEFv5fwJAiRF6lwjW2oGbzYCLw5i@mail.gmail.com>

ben kuin wrote:

> > If yes it seems this has not been a big showstopper to Windows apps
> 
> err what?? On what planet do you live? It must be a nice place :-)

I would say it hasn't been a big problem on Windows because people
are still using windows. Furthermore, how many of the programs that
Microsoft distrubutes with Windows 7 are written in C#/.NET and 
how many are written in C++? 

Furthermore, many of the problems suffered by Windows are not a
problem on Unix systems.
 
> COM components ( to encapsulate the abi )

They were always a mistake. COM never made it to Unix.

> DLL hell ( never heard of that? com registration)

This is a Microsoft specific problem. Unix systems have used versioned
shared libraries since at least the mid 1980s.

> STL ( taming the abi)

The STL should only be problem and compile time.

> CORBA ( to talk between incompatible libraries)

Another mistake. Never common on Unix.

> VC6++, VC7++ incompatibilities

I've only ever come across one problem as a result of this, a problem
with passing file descriptor across the application/DLL boundary when
the application and the DLL were compiled with different versions of
the compiler. Again, this is a problem with Microsoft's OS that I have
never come across on any of the Unix systems I have used.

> If you really want to torture a developer, these is the best toolset
> you get.

You have to be kidding me. I personally think the Microsoft development
tools are completely horrible.

> If you want to punish the user with crashing apps and
> beautiful error messages ( stuff like: "Error msxml.dll not registered
> by regsvr32" then go ahead.

How does that have anything to do with using a VM or not.
 
> .NET was already a success before the dotnet-sdk was downloadable.

Microsoft was your saviour because Microsoft caused all your problems
in the first place.

Microsoft keeps calling Unix a legacy platform, but Unix has evolved 
over time and to people running modern versions of Unix, its Windows
that looks like a legacy platform.

Erik
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http://www.mega-nerd.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-15 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 12:06 ben kuin
2010-05-05 14:19 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
     [not found]   ` <i2sc0c8bc8b1005051446q34b07d37xc4021d2b4b23d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <4BE28085.5090100@lexifi.com>
2010-05-06 10:59       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 18:58 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 19:16   ` Ed Keith
2010-05-05 20:15     ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 22:13     ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-05 22:36       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 23:13         ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-06 10:45           ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 14:38         ` Tim Hanson
2010-05-05 22:18     ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 11:13       ` Ed Keith
2010-05-06 10:43     ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-06 16:33       ` Peng Zang
2010-05-07  7:26         ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-07  8:25           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-10 21:53         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 11:22           ` ben kuin
2010-05-11 16:39             ` Peng Zang
2010-05-11 17:35               ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-11 23:47               ` ben kuin
2010-05-12  1:57                 ` Peng Zang
2010-05-12 11:56               ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 17:38             ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-12 12:28             ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-12 13:11               ` forum
2010-05-14 10:40                 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 10:58                   ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-14 11:51                     ` forum
2010-05-14 11:51                   ` forum
2010-05-16 20:31                     ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-17  7:53                       ` forum
2010-05-19  0:17                         ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-19  7:46                           ` forum
2010-05-19 11:29                             ` Michael Ekstrand
2010-05-19 13:27                               ` [Caml-list] " Eray Ozkural
2010-05-19 13:35                                 ` David Allsopp
2010-05-19 15:23                                   ` Erick Tryzelaar
2010-05-19 16:49                                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-19 16:48                                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-20  2:03                             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 13:55                   ` Ed Keith
2010-05-14 15:17                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-14 16:26                     ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 16:32                       ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 20:08                         ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 21:28                           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-14 21:29                             ` [Caml-list] " Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 23:51                             ` ben kuin
2010-05-15  0:48                           ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 18:11                       ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 18:59                         ` ben kuin
     [not found]                           ` <AANLkTik-EuZRmX8VKMdAIsO_t8JGHvS6F9TPVLkohed8@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-14 21:42                             ` Fwd: " Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 21:47                               ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 21:57                                 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-15  0:16                                 ` ben kuin
2010-05-15  0:43                                   ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15  2:16                                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:27                                       ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16  3:19                                         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15  9:45                                     ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 12:07                                       ` Ed Keith
2010-05-15 12:17                                       ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-15 13:21                                         ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 22:18                                           ` Erik de Castro Lopo [this message]
2010-05-15 23:39                                             ` ben kuin
2010-05-16  3:23                                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 13:23                                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:45                                       ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 21:44                               ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-15 22:25                                 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-16  2:04                                   ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16  3:20                                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-16 17:50                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-16 19:15                                       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 21:59   ` ben kuin

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