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From: "Mark Shinwell" <mshinwell@janestreet.com>
To: David Allsopp <dra-news@metastack.com>
Cc: 'Florent Ouchet' <florent.ouchet@imag.fr>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Static exception analysis or alternative to using exceptions
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:11:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527091110.GD18772@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000c01cafd7a$3f6595e0$be30c1a0$@romulus.metastack.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:54:29AM +0100, David Allsopp wrote:
> Florent Ouchet wrote:
> > Same here, specially to avoid the Not_found exception.
> > The optional return values gives the oportunity to have a clear view of
> > what is being done if the result is not available.
> 
> Agreed - though [find] is one of the examples where you do need find and
> find_exc - because often there are occasions where before calling
> {Map,Set,Hashtbl}.find you already know that the key exists and so won't
> fail at which point the 'a option boxing is a waste of time and space and
> Not_found would be a truly exceptional situation so passes the previously
> mentioned test.

I don't think I agree with this.  I would argue that for the majority of
programs it is likely that the extra overhead is in fact negligible.  In
the cases where it should be impossible to get the None return value, I
think that should probably be annotated as such in the code with "assert
false", which would seem to be more appropriate than a random Not_found
popping up at some much higher level.

In some cases it might be possible to refactor the code to just avoid the
situation entirely, for example by turning this:

  if not (Map.mem my_map key) then
    ..a..
  else
    ..b..
    let data = Map.find_exn my_map key in
    ..c..

into this:

  match Map.find my_map key with
  | None -> ..a..
  | Some data -> ..b.. ..c..

Whilst I agree that there are arguments relating to verbosity of the use
of option types, I think the strongest argument for keeping the *_exn
variants may actually be that they're just a lot more convenient for quick
hacks.

Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-27  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26 17:30 Dario Teixeira
2010-05-26 21:10 ` Hans Ole Rafaelsen
2010-05-27  3:37   ` Jacques Le Normand
2010-05-27  8:08     ` Florent Ouchet
2010-05-27  8:50       ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-27 11:10         ` Florent Ouchet
2010-05-27  8:54       ` David Allsopp
2010-05-27  9:11         ` Mark Shinwell [this message]
2010-05-27  9:29           ` David Allsopp
2010-05-27  9:12         ` Daniel Bünzli
2010-05-27  9:19           ` David Allsopp
2010-05-27  9:15       ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2010-05-27 13:56     ` Hezekiah M. Carty
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-01 19:08 Peter Ronnquist
2010-05-26 16:15 Hans Ole Rafaelsen
2010-05-27  9:34 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
2010-05-27 17:01 ` Richard Jones
2010-05-27 21:13   ` Dario Teixeira
2010-05-31 14:36   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-31 15:00     ` Florent Ouchet
2010-05-31 17:24     ` David Allsopp
2010-05-31 20:51       ` Török Edwin
2010-06-08  9:16       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-31 19:30     ` Nicolas Pouillard
2010-05-31 20:57       ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2010-05-31 21:42         ` blue storm
2010-05-31 19:36     ` Christophe Raffalli

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