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From: oliver <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>
To: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
Cc: Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer@googlemail.com>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:42:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111207204215.GB6698@siouxsie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pqg0oh4d.fsf@frosties.localnet>

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 10:39:30AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> oliver <oliver@first.in-berlin.de> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > during the last years, more than one person mourned about
> > this or that dark sides of OCaml.
> >
> > Even some of the mourning and the proposals had mentioned good ideas and had
> > positive motivation, after a while it became clear, that the same people with
> > the one or the other good idea, failed badly in other areas. Good, that they
> > did not have had too much influence in the development of OCaml.
> >
> > Even in general I like the community/bazaar, I think in case of OCaml,
> > there is a lot of high knowledge in the core team, which was criticized
> > by others already, but in the long run, it turned out that the core team
> > had their reasons for a lot of decisions, which were criticized.
> > Ocaml of course will also have some history-related issues that might be
> > changed, but maybe also a lot of decisions inside, which relies on theoretical
> > reasoning.
> 
> That is no excuse for not reacting to bug or feature patches. If
> there is a reason not to accept a patch then that can be communicated.
> 
> There is no excuse for silence.
[...]

OK, I can agree here.
More communication might be fine.

I don't know how much the OCaml team is overwhelmed with work.
And I don't know how much time it needs to give feedback; that
also depends on the bugtracking tools.
If the used tools are too uncnvenient, maybe they could be changed.

But that also needs work.

I remember that I once had a feature wish.
As far as I remember, it was picked up, but
also done silently...

Last time when I was logged in at the OCaml bugtracker (long ago btw),
there were a lot of issues... some bug-reports, some feature wishes.
Don't remember if automatic messaging must be activated, but I
don't remember that status change was reported to me.

When I use launchpad for Ubuntu, then Messages will be delivered automatically
to the reporter of a bug.

Maybe the toolchain can be enhanced, so that no extra overhead for writing
messages is necessary.

Ciao,
   Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-07 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-06  8:25 Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06  9:17 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-06 10:08   ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-06  9:31 ` rixed
2011-12-06 12:10   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06  9:42 ` Kakadu
2011-12-06  9:48   ` Joel Reymont
2011-12-06 10:51   ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-06 10:58     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2011-12-06 16:12       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-06 19:24         ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-06 10:00 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 12:20   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06 10:35 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-06 11:31   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 12:34     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-15 18:49     ` Jérôme Benoit
2011-12-06 13:09   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-06 22:48   ` oliver
2011-12-07  7:23     ` Adrien
2011-12-06 11:40 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-06 12:02   ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2011-12-06 12:16     ` Joel Reymont
2011-12-06 12:43       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2011-12-06 12:27   ` François Bobot
2011-12-06 13:01   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06 13:52 ` ivan chollet
2011-12-06 14:42   ` Alexandre Pilkiewicz
2011-12-06 15:10     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 15:14       ` Yitzhak Mandelbaum
2011-12-06 15:24         ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-07  9:36       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-06 22:07 ` oliver
2011-12-07  9:39   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-07 20:42     ` oliver [this message]
     [not found] <201112071100.pB7B0N8J020839@walapai.inria.fr>
2011-12-07 13:59 ` tools
2011-12-07 14:37   ` Jérémie Dimino

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