From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pBFInJ5D032195 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:19 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoGALRA6k5beQg5X2dsb2JhbABDq04eT4FyAQEEAQx9C0ZDFBkUh2YCuE2IaoMaBI4chlmBD5Ee X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,358,1320620400"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="135621260" Received: from ns37873.ovh.net (HELO laposte.grenouille.com) ([91.121.8.57]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 Dec 2011 19:49:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by laposte.grenouille.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B837F388 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: spam & virus filtering at laposte.grenouille.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.918 X-Spam-Level: Received: from laposte.grenouille.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns37873.ovh.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LWOkl61-3ws9 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from nemesis.grenouille.com (bea13-2-82-239-143-199.fbx.proxad.net [82.239.143.199]) by laposte.grenouille.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A507F36B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from nemesis.grenouille.com (nemesis.grenouille.com [127.0.0.1]) by nemesis.grenouille.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF01B611AF for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?Suly9G1l?= Benoit To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20111215194909.37c9cc50@nemesis.grenouille.com> In-Reply-To: <4adc9f6482cdbe0208c0baf4992392de.squirrel@gps.dynxs.de> References: <1B0D83BD-1902-4F7C-B3FB-B759122D6AB9@googlemail.com> <4adc9f6482cdbe0208c0baf4992392de.squirrel@gps.dynxs.de> Organization: Grenouille.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/=S1Q6nQi9bHW.jy7VvKu4/G"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork --Sig_/=S1Q6nQi9bHW.jy7VvKu4/G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:31:07 +0100 "Gerd Stolpmann" wrote: >=20 > > I would like to comment on a tangential aspect of the rationale you > > gave: > > > >> Given that OCaml is such a nice language with a lot of useful > >> frameworks available, > >> it is too sad to see it loosing ground just because of it's closed > >> development process > >> and lack of time of the official team. >=20 > I'm quite reluctant to discuss topics about the said decline of > something. However, there is certainly a point here. I have my own > theory - basically the users with FP knowledge have now more options > (e.g. F# or the JVM-based FP languages like Scala), and so the > "share" for Ocaml is decreasing. This has nothing to do with the > language. It's not an issue for OCaml development, it's an issue for newcomers. The main issue is : OCaml community do not have a fucking clue of what a codeflow really *is*.=20 Never ever seen a commit only list on all of the OCaml projects seen so far. Never ever seen a patches flow working (via BTS or mail). Never read a well documented commit comment. Never read a comment on a patch or a commit.=20 And you want hackers to be implicate in the OCaml development process with not even a working and documented codeflow, the first and essential brick any FOSS project just all share ?=20 Cheers. --=20 J=E9r=F4me Benoit aka fraggle La M=E9t=E9o du Net - http://grenouille.com OpenPGP Key ID : 9FE9161D Key fingerprint : 9CA4 0249 AF57 A35B 34B3 AC15 FAA0 CB50 9FE9 161D --Sig_/=S1Q6nQi9bHW.jy7VvKu4/G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk7qQSUACgkQ+qDLUJ/pFh0yhgCglU/sT9hstJbieMzMAXxWIhK0 1BQAoJMt+KmW8rAT62bHgRM/RQ7ZAObF =rFTO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=S1Q6nQi9bHW.jy7VvKu4/G--