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From: Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org>
To: Paolo Donadeo <p.donadeo@gmail.com>
Cc: OCaml mailing list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:57:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130911185750.GE3764@notk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPzAKVBcOvcHhM2j0=USaOX2c9Am=bOq0p-KoL=VcaQj0D7jpg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Paolo Donadeo wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:
> > I'm trying to get a list of things that people find bad in (labl)gtk.
> > Would you be able to put clear words on what you dislike?
> 
> Very simple. Each and every time I open the GTK API reference [1] I
> feel like being catapulted in a distopian world, where nothing is
> clear. Compare with the documentation of QT.

It's a bit strange. Each and every time I've been feeling the same but
with Qt and GTK swapped. Only proves that people are different though.
(and makes me wonder what is the fundamental difference)

> Second, I notice that there isn't a single GTK program with a decent
> GUI, from the look and feel point of view. I use GTK programs everyday
> (as a Linux user) but this doesn't mean I don't consider it
> essentially... ugly. Compare with the average GUIs of an average OSX
> application, but even Windows is probably better and more refined.
> 
> It's *NOT* a problem with LablGTK, but with GTK itself.

As Kakadu mentionned, I believe it's mostly a matter of themes.
Unfortunately they tend to not evolve much.

That said, visually appealing themes are much easier to write with a DSL
and that's pretty much Edje (EFL) and QtQuick. It's both simpler and
more powerful.
Hopefully, these are getting more widespread (yay, people discover DSLs
again!).

> [1] for example: http://www.gtk.org/api/2.6/gtk/gtk-General.html
(I found that it mostly matched what I'd like for a fairly low-level
documentation =/ )

-- 
Adrien Nader

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-11 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-10 21:09 Gour
2013-09-10 21:38 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11  5:24   ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  7:21     ` Kakadu
2013-09-11  8:21       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  8:14     ` Gour
2013-09-11 18:17       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:31         ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:53           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 20:41             ` Gour
2013-09-11 21:01               ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  5:44                 ` Gour
2013-09-12  6:31                   ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  5:36             ` Gour
2013-09-12  6:48               ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  7:26                 ` Gour
2013-09-11 20:06         ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 20:48           ` Anthony Tavener
2013-09-11 21:04             ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 14:40             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 14:51               ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-12 14:57                 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-09-12 15:04                   ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-14  3:05                 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-14  7:10                   ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 11:37                     ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-15  8:32                       ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 23:51                   ` Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger
2013-09-11 22:17           ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-12 13:49             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 13:58               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-11  9:49     ` David MENTRE
2013-09-11 10:14       ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 15:21         ` David MENTRE
2013-09-12  1:31           ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 18:43         ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 18:36       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:34         ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 19:45           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 22:06             ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12  3:25         ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-09-12  6:41         ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 11:49           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-11 19:17       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 22:03       ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12  8:16         ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-11 12:26     ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:48       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 13:22     ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 13:33       ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 14:09         ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 19:36           ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 19:45             ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-12 12:55               ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:57       ` Adrien Nader [this message]
2013-09-11 19:01         ` Rudi Grinberg
2013-09-11 19:15           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  8:10   ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  1:00 ` [Caml-list] " Francois Berenger
2013-09-11  5:07   ` rixed
2013-09-11  8:26     ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  9:23       ` rixed
2013-09-11 12:54         ` Leo White
2013-09-11 12:59           ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:06             ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  8:16   ` Gour
2013-09-11  9:00     ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 19:19       ` Gour
2013-11-17 20:12       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  7:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2013-09-11  8:20   ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 11:42     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-18 11:42       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-18 12:24         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-20  4:47           ` Gour
2013-09-19  8:11         ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-19  8:30           ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-09-19  8:47             ` Andreas Rossberg
2013-09-20  4:51           ` Gour
2013-09-20 12:04             ` Gerd Stolpmann

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