From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4405820A1 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of adrien@notk.org) identity=pra; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="adrien@notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of adrien@notk.org designates 91.121.71.147 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="adrien@notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@nautica.notk.org) identity=helo; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="postmaster@nautica.notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsAALLJMFJbeUeTl2dsb2JhbABbhlJpvFqBHRYOAQEBAQEIFgc8giUBAQQBI0sQCwsYAgIFEw4CAg8FGEQUh2gKrXOReoEpjkgWglM0gQADlB2DWwGVFjo X-IPAS-Result: ApsAALLJMFJbeUeTl2dsb2JhbABbhlJpvFqBHRYOAQEBAQEIFgc8giUBAQQBI0sQCwsYAgIFEw4CAg8FGEQUh2gKrXOReoEpjkgWglM0gQADlB2DWwGVFjo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,886,1371074400"; d="scan'208";a="32491056" Received: from nautica.notk.org ([91.121.71.147]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Sep 2013 21:53:20 +0200 Received: by nautica.notk.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 92E44C009; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:53:20 +0200 From: Adrien Nader To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20130911195320.GB20117@notk.org> References: <20130910230928.2d51cd39@atmarama.noip.me> <20130911052437.GA9514@notk.org> <20130911101457.3f756b68@atmarama.noip.me> <20130911181737.GA3764@notk.org> <20130911213106.7fa73539@atmarama.noip.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130911213106.7fa73539@atmarama.noip.me> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Gour wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:17:37 +0200 > Adrien Nader wrote: > > > I hadn't, thanks for the link. I skipped the video and went a bit > > quickly through the lwn article (hopefully, lwn articles are > > well-written and you only need to read a few words of a paragraph to > > kwow whether you want to skip it or not). > > Let's see... > > > It's fairly reassuring that they plan to make something stable after > > that. I hope for everyone that this holds. By the time they reach the > > end of GTK3, they should notice that it's necessary; again, I hope. > > Maybe they will achieve something stable after GTK3, but nobody knows > when it will happen and it seems that GNOME will remain the only > customer at that time. > While I hope this happens, I'm not holding my breath. > > I've had troubles engaging with the GTK+ community. Maybe I should > > have tried the mailing-lists instead of only IRC but they are active > > on IRC and I'd expect to get at least some reaction but I had lots of > > troubles getting any. If I'm trying to work for free, don't make me > > work more in order to do the work. > > Have you seen this one: "Finally, he said, people ask whether GTK+ is > focused on creating "small apps" or "large applications," and his answer > is "small apps." In other words, GTK+ widgets are designed to make it > easy and fast to write small apps for GNOME: apps like Clocks, rather > than GIMP or Inkscape." > > Frankly speaking I'm not interested to use GUI toolkit which is designed > for writing "apps like Clocks". No wonder that more & more projects > (even DEs like LXDE) are moving towards Qt. That's something I disagree with, or at least don't understand. All I ask from a GUI library is a set of widget. If that is properly provided, I don't see which influence the library has on the scale of the application you can do. > Sure, Qt is not perfect, but the state of GTK is sad. Pretty much agreed. > > Oh and the community is welcoming, with many French people, i.e. that > > you can actually threaten with a baseball bat. :) > > :-) > > What about Tk which seems to not look bad in 8.6.x ? It's one tooolkit I haven't tried. Part of the reason was the lack of a working WebKit binding (to tk, not to ocaml) last time I started a project. That said, gitk does a few weird things from time to time but I'm not sure if it's by design or if it's because of tk. -- Adrien Nader