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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich@annexia.org>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Immutable strings
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:45:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140714174538.GB30965@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sympa.1404842907.21063.651@inria.fr>

On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 08:15:39PM +0200, mattiasw@gmail.com wrote:
> My two cents:
> 
> To me it seems very strange to introduce a new string type and not make it
> UTF-8 from start.

I would far prefer that OCaml did *not* specify an encoding for
string, and just left them as effectively array of bytes as now.  This
leaves the business of encoding UTF-8 up to higher layers, either
camomile, iconv or the database.

That would imply removing incorrect functions like String.uppercase
and String.lowercase.

There are a couple of reasons for this:

(1) It's easy to get Unicode wrong, and baking incorrect Unicode into
the language could be worse than not having it at all.  See also:
Java, Python 2, Ruby, everything using the Win32 API.

(2) Doing it right is incredibly complex.  See also: Perl 5.

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones
Red Hat

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-14 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-04 19:18 Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-04 20:31 ` Anthony Tavener
2014-07-04 20:38   ` Malcolm Matalka
2014-07-04 23:44   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-05 11:04   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-16 11:38     ` Damien Doligez
2014-07-04 21:01 ` Markus Mottl
2014-07-05 11:24   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-08 13:23     ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-07-08 13:37       ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-08 14:04         ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-07-28 11:14   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-07-28 15:51     ` Markus Mottl
2014-07-29  2:54       ` Yaron Minsky
2014-07-29  9:46         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-07-29 11:48         ` John F. Carr
2014-07-07 12:42 ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-08 12:24   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-09 13:54     ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-09 18:04       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-10  6:41         ` Nicolas Boulay
2014-07-14 17:40       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-07-08 18:15 ` mattiasw
2014-07-08 19:24   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-08 19:27     ` Raoul Duke
2014-07-09 14:15   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-14 17:45   ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2014-07-21 15:06 ` Alain Frisch
     [not found]   ` <20140722.235104.405798419265248505.Christophe.Troestler@umons.ac.be>
2014-08-29 16:30     ` Damien Doligez

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