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From: Petter Urkedal <paurkedal@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel Bünzli" <daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch>
Cc: Nils Becker <nils.becker@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de>,
	Caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] destructive local opens
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:51:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150804065134.GA10576@dione.int.eideticdew.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8E1A640CE3374EB492981ADB0A2DA5C6@erratique.ch>

On 2015-08-03, Daniel Bünzli wrote:
> Le lundi, 3 août 2015 à 15:08, Nils Becker a écrit :
> > It's possible that people actually want M.() to mean let open! more
> > often than let open. For me I think that's the case.
> 
> If you are in the vector case, I don't think that's the case. With Gg [1] I often had the following kind of subtly wrong code (can't remember the exact details but something similar):  
> 
> let ox = V2.((dot v ox) * ox) in
> V2.(3 * ox + oy)
> 
> The reality is that M.() is inherently dangerous, especially from an API evolution perspective where new identifiers with matching type may get introduced later leading to silent semantic changes in your code. So we should not encourage people to use M.!() as it's going to make the problem even more acute. Besides we should have that 44 warning by default so that we see the problems, but for now it's impossible to live with 44 and a Gg like library.

This suggests another option.  If type information is available at the
point this warning is emitted, then the warning could be issued only in
the case when the type of the shadowing identifier matched that of the
shadowed identifier.

This assumes the common case for shadowing is to redefine operators or
common functions at a custom type, the use of M.() being an alternative
to overloading.  Loosely the warning should be emitted if the chosen
identifier is not the one which would have been chosen by some sensible
overloading scheme, but instead we make a simple estimate.

This could still go wrong, since the type required by the context may be
general than the type of both the shadowed and shadowing terms, so a
better rule might be to issue the warning if both are admissible in the
given context, though my guess is that's harder to implement.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-04  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-03 13:39 Nils Becker
2015-08-03 13:43 ` Thomas Refis
2015-08-03 13:45 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 13:47   ` Daniel Bünzli
     [not found]     ` <55BF75F6.1040006@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de>
2015-08-03 14:24       ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 14:37         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-03 14:43           ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 15:10           ` octachron
2015-08-03 15:22             ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 16:13               ` octachron
2015-08-03 16:51                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 17:18                   ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-03 17:59                   ` octachron
2015-08-06 13:23                     ` RE : " moreno pedro
2015-08-04  6:51         ` Petter Urkedal [this message]
2015-08-04  9:33           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-05  6:40             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2015-08-05 10:16               ` David Allsopp
2015-08-06  9:35               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04 13:50           ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-04  9:26         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04  9:38           ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-04 12:26             ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 13:12               ` David Allsopp
2015-08-04 13:17                 ` Jeremy Yallop
2015-08-04 13:54                   ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 15:25                   ` Drup
2015-08-04 22:22                     ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 22:55                       ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-05  4:52                         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-04 13:14               ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-08-14 10:55                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-14 11:28                   ` Drup
2015-08-18 11:11                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-18 12:52                       ` David Allsopp
2015-08-18 13:00                         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-18 22:26                           ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 13:55                             ` Oleg
2015-08-19 14:13                               ` John Whitington
2015-08-19 15:47                                 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-19 15:52                             ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-19 18:09                               ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 15:55                             ` Simon Cruanes
2015-08-19 16:42                               ` Arthur Wendling
2015-08-19 21:15                               ` octachron
2015-08-20  8:06                                 ` Romain Bardou
2015-08-20 17:03                                   ` Yotam Barnoy
2015-08-20 19:19                                     ` Erkki Seppala
2015-08-06  9:23               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06  9:21             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06 10:19               ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-06 13:36                 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-14 10:57                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-17 10:17 Nils Becker
2015-08-17 14:26 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 15:11   ` Nils Becker
2015-08-17 15:17     ` Drup
2015-08-17 15:18     ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 18:31       ` Hendrik Boom

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