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From: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] destructive local opens
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:47:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150819154751.GA31044@topoi.pooq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D48F0E.4050604@coherentgraphics.co.uk>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 03:13:34PM +0100, John Whitington wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Oleg wrote:
> >[Since this discussion still continues, I think I will comment on
> >Gabriel's comment after all.]
> >
> >  "It is remarkable that programming languages have avoided introducing
> >   explicit weakening (the popping of a symbol out of scope) for now, and
> >   I think it is a property that should be preserved. We're not yet ready
> >   to go there."
> >
> >Actually there have been proposals to go into that direction, about 30
> >years ago.
> >
> >	http://research.microsoft.com/lampson/39-Pebble/39-PebbleAbstract.htm
> >
> >Please look at p 287 of the paper: ``Pebble also has an anti-LET,
> >which impoverishes the environment instead of enriching it.'' This is
> >exactly the issue under discussion in this thread.
> 
> I've sometimes thought it would be nice to be able to write something like:
> 
> let x = f a b c
> and y = g d e in
>   let x' for x y = x * 2 + y in
>     (x', h x')
> 
> where "let x' for x y" introduces the binding of x' and takes x and
> y out of scope. Now, if we accidentally write...
> 
> let x = f a b c
> and y = g d e in
>   let x' for x, y = x * 2 + y in
>     (x', h x)
> 
> ...we would get an error, since x is out of scope on the last line.

This is very explicit about what it allows and shadows.  I like it.

> You could imagine also "let x' for _ = ... in ..." which removes all
> variables in the current scope used in the calculation of x' from
> scope, which could be determined syntactically. This seems
> draconian, though.
> 

This is possibly less useful.

> John
> 
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> John Whitington
> Director, Coherent Graphics Ltd
> http://www.coherentpdf.com/
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-19 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-03 13:39 Nils Becker
2015-08-03 13:43 ` Thomas Refis
2015-08-03 13:45 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 13:47   ` Daniel Bünzli
     [not found]     ` <55BF75F6.1040006@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de>
2015-08-03 14:24       ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 14:37         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-03 14:43           ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 15:10           ` octachron
2015-08-03 15:22             ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 16:13               ` octachron
2015-08-03 16:51                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 17:18                   ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-03 17:59                   ` octachron
2015-08-06 13:23                     ` RE : " moreno pedro
2015-08-04  6:51         ` Petter Urkedal
2015-08-04  9:33           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-05  6:40             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2015-08-05 10:16               ` David Allsopp
2015-08-06  9:35               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04 13:50           ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-04  9:26         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04  9:38           ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-04 12:26             ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 13:12               ` David Allsopp
2015-08-04 13:17                 ` Jeremy Yallop
2015-08-04 13:54                   ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 15:25                   ` Drup
2015-08-04 22:22                     ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 22:55                       ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-05  4:52                         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-04 13:14               ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-08-14 10:55                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-14 11:28                   ` Drup
2015-08-18 11:11                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-18 12:52                       ` David Allsopp
2015-08-18 13:00                         ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-18 22:26                           ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 13:55                             ` Oleg
2015-08-19 14:13                               ` John Whitington
2015-08-19 15:47                                 ` Hendrik Boom [this message]
2015-08-19 15:52                             ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-19 18:09                               ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 15:55                             ` Simon Cruanes
2015-08-19 16:42                               ` Arthur Wendling
2015-08-19 21:15                               ` octachron
2015-08-20  8:06                                 ` Romain Bardou
2015-08-20 17:03                                   ` Yotam Barnoy
2015-08-20 19:19                                     ` Erkki Seppala
2015-08-06  9:23               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06  9:21             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06 10:19               ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-06 13:36                 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-14 10:57                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-17 10:17 Nils Becker
2015-08-17 14:26 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 15:11   ` Nils Becker
2015-08-17 15:17     ` Drup
2015-08-17 15:18     ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 18:31       ` Hendrik Boom

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