From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA007FE36 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 22:31:29 +0200 (CEST) IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:trTiJx0KzMBBN8cRsmDT+DRfVm0co7zxezQtwd8ZsegVL/ad9pjvdHbS+e9qxAeQG96Ks7Qf16GP7/2ocFdDyK7JiGoFfp1IWk1NouQttCtkPvS4D1bmJuXhdS0wEZcKflZk+3amLRodQ56mNBXsq3G/pQQfBg/4fVIsYL+kQsiJ04/ui7360qaQSj0AvCC6b7J2IUf+hiTqne5Sv7FfLL0swADCuHpCdrce72ppIVWOg0S0vZ/or9YwuxhX7vko8soFVaThY4w5S6ZZBXIoKTMb/sru4DnOSweV53hUeGIRl1IcAwXD4Av7Xb/ttTP9t6xl3y6De8bxSOZnCnyZ8653RUqw2288PDkj/TSPhw== Authentication-Results: mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; spf=None smtp.pra=hendrik@topoi.pooq.com; spf=None smtp.mailfrom=hendrik@topoi.pooq.com; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@april.topoi.pooq.com Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of hendrik@topoi.pooq.com) identity=pra; client-ip=69.165.131.134; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="hendrik@topoi.pooq.com"; x-sender="hendrik@topoi.pooq.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of hendrik@topoi.pooq.com) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=69.165.131.134; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="hendrik@topoi.pooq.com"; x-sender="hendrik@topoi.pooq.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@april.topoi.pooq.com) identity=helo; client-ip=69.165.131.134; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="hendrik@topoi.pooq.com"; x-sender="postmaster@april.topoi.pooq.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BLAgA8sIJX/4aDpUVdhF+DJ7YhgXqGGAKBVxQBAQEBAQEBAWQngjIVghYBBSMPATsbCxgCAgUMDgcCAg8FGFgHiBWvbI5OAQEBBwIBJIEBiXOEExEBWw2CNSuCLwWZGI5ICmaORpAPHjaCPIFRIIdtgTUBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0BLAgA8sIJX/4aDpUVdhF+DJ7YhgXqGGAKBVxQBAQEBAQEBAWQngjIVghYBBSMPATsbCxgCAgUMDgcCAg8FGFgHiBWvbI5OAQEBBwIBJIEBiXOEExEBWw2CNSuCLwWZGI5ICmaORpAPHjaCPIFRIIdtgTUBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,343,1464645600"; d="scan'208";a="226244520" Received: from topoi.pooq.com (HELO april.topoi.pooq.com) ([69.165.131.134]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2016 22:31:26 +0200 Received: by april.topoi.pooq.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0ED74C209E; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:31:24 -0400 From: Hendrik Boom To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20160710203124.GA13215@topoi.pooq.com> References: <9445A645-1A01-4B74-8DB4-03C911DE3A06@mpi-sws.org> <46ff9104-48ea-3fc7-da37-d3a1c6d147bc@crans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <46ff9104-48ea-3fc7-da37-d3a1c6d147bc@crans.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Discourse instance for the OCaml community? (was: how to encourage adoption of OCaml?) On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 06:10:27PM +0200, Glen Mével wrote: > Andreas Rossberg a écrit (le 10/07/2016 à 09:21) : > > > To paraphrase Dijkstra, IMHO email and mailing lists are an > > improvement over more “modern” forums in almost every way, once you > > get past the “flashiness” thing: > > > > - participation without having to constantly log into yet another > > account (with potential tracking), > > - all communication through the same tool/UI (that actually works), > > easy cross-communication and cross-quoting, archiving in one place, > > etc > > - offline reading & writing, > > - proper threading (Discourse sees its lack as a “feature"), > > - no annoying gamification, > > - open, standardised and guaranteed to still be around in 5 or 10 > > years from now. > > i fully agree with all this. however, there is one single feature that i > miss with email and newsgroup: the ability to edit a message after it > was sent. sadly, by the nature of those protocols this can’t be fixed, > and to me this is the single stuff that makes the web‐2.0‐based > solutions (forums and the like) unavoidable. [ other missing features, > available in more recent technologies, are either superfluous > (avatars?), or tied to contents (redaction in a Markdown‐like format, > syntax highlighting…), thus can be circumvented. ] THis in one thing that google plus allows. However, I find searching for anything on google plus is an exercise in futility. -- hendrik