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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:09:41AM -0500, Marshall wrote: > I’m an OCaml beginner, so you would think that I would find the OCaml > beginners’ list helpful. However, every interaction I have with Yahoo > groups just pushes me away. There are obnoxious ads in the web > interface, which is not very intuitive anyway. I could use the > beginners list/group via email, but that would require using my Yahoo > email address, which I don’t have set up on any of my mail clients. > When I go into the Yahoo web mail interface, I mainly see a list of > junk mail that I don’t care about, so I don’t want to use the Yahoo > address. More than once, I have thought, “I should use the OCaml > beginners’ list.” When I start to go down that path, I stop. Yahoo > groups are too distasteful. I’m not sure how many other people feel > this way, but surely I’m not alone. That means that for some new > OCaml users, the public face of OCaml support pushes us away. So > sending new users to the Yahoo group seems unhelpful to the growth of > OCaml. The best way I've found to read the OCaml beginners mailing list is to use the Pan usenet browser, aiming it at the usenet group gmane.comp.lang.ocaml.beginners at news.gmane.org. It beatss any web email interface I've used. And if you don't like Pan, there are other news readers. Please keep this usenet gateway alive. -- hendrik