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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich@annexia.org>
To: "Petter A. Urkedal" <paurkedal@gmail.com>
Cc: ptoscano@redhat.com, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] What if exn was not an open type?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:35:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171025083530.gvggcenrgxolduse@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALa9pHQ-nhWf4T0U5gDiKTduPiEeXSZPQ=DY6N1YNbCXqRohPQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 09:00:05PM +0200, Petter A. Urkedal wrote:
> On 24 October 2017 at 15:30, Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:
> > Since I first used OCaml I have wished for a simple (and type safe)
> > return statement.
> 
> It's possible to wrap a bit type (and exception) safety about
> exceptions used for return:
> 
>   val with_return : (('a -> 'b) -> 'a) -> 'a
> 
>   let with_return (type b) f =
>     let exception Return of b in
>     try f (fun y -> raise (Return y)) with Return y -> y
> 
> E.g.
> 
>   with_return (fun return -> List.iter (function 0 -> () | i -> return
> i) [0; 0; 24; 0]; -1);;

Thanks, that's interesting.

	--

As mine was a bit of a "Hit and run" comment, let me expand on
why a return statement is useful for the kind of dull code that
I write.

I often have to write functions of the form:

  let f () =
    if some_problem then (
      printf "sorry, can't do that\n";
      (* return *)
    )
    else if some_other_problem then (
      printf "sorry, can't do that either\n";
      (* return *)
    )
    else (
      match something with
      | None ->
         (* return *)
      | Some v ->
         (* finally we get to do some work! *)
         ...
    )

Real code is often heavily indented, or we have to put the work into
awkward nested functions.  This file contains a few real examples:
https://github.com/libguestfs/libguestfs/blob/master/daemon/inspect_fs_unix_fstab.ml

This would work a lot better with a return statement rather than
workarounds.

Having said all that I was writing a little ML language last
year and I tried to implement a return statement, but it was very
awkward to work out how to map that to my lambda calculus, so
I understand how return statements are rather difficult to implement
in practice.

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-25  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-20  9:56 Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-20 10:55 ` David Allsopp
2017-10-20 11:21   ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-20 11:38     ` Simon Cruanes
2017-10-20 16:54       ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-20 19:47         ` Simon Cruanes
2017-10-21 21:15           ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-24 13:30       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-10-24 19:02         ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-04 18:44           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-04 18:48             ` SP
2017-11-04 18:53               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-04 19:03                 ` SP
2017-11-04 19:01             ` Max Mouratov
2017-11-04 19:16             ` octachron
2017-11-05 17:41               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-05 18:39                 ` Yaron Minsky
2017-11-05 20:49                   ` Gabriel Scherer
2017-11-05 21:48                     ` Yaron Minsky
2017-11-05 21:53                     ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-05 18:02             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-05 18:24               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-05 18:55                 ` Petter A. Urkedal
     [not found]         ` <CALa9pHQ-nhWf4T0U5gDiKTduPiEeXSZPQ=DY6N1YNbCXqRohPQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-25  8:35           ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2017-10-25  9:12             ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-25 14:52               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-10-25 16:37                 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-25 17:47                   ` SP
2017-10-26  8:06                 ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-26  8:11                   ` Xavier Leroy
2017-10-25 13:36             ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-26  7:31             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-10-27 13:58             ` Oleg
2017-10-27 14:24               ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-27 14:49                 ` Leo White
2017-11-01  7:16                 ` Oleg
2017-11-04 17:52                   ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-20 17:07   ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-21 21:28 ` Nathan Moreau
2017-10-22 12:39   ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-22 13:08     ` Nathan Moreau
2017-10-24 11:11     ` SP
2017-10-24 11:16       ` Gabriel Scherer
2017-10-25 11:30         ` Malcolm Matalka

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