From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 438F482355 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:08:35 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; spf=None smtp.pra=adrien@notk.org; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=adrien@notk.org; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@nautica.notk.org Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of adrien@notk.org) identity=pra; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="adrien@notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of adrien@notk.org designates 91.121.71.147 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="adrien@notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@nautica.notk.org) identity=helo; client-ip=91.121.71.147; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="adrien@notk.org"; x-sender="postmaster@nautica.notk.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible IronPort-PHdr: =?us-ascii?q?9a23=3A9ESovBQPgYKef/Nu7YAlItXCadpsv+yvbD5Q0YIu?= =?us-ascii?q?jvd0So/mwa69ZBWN2/xhgRfzUJnB7Loc0qyK6/mmATRIyK3CmUhKSIZLWR4BhJ?= =?us-ascii?q?detC0bK+nBN3fGKuX3ZTcxBsVIWQwt1Xi6NU9IBJS2PAWK8TW94jEIBxrwKxd+?= =?us-ascii?q?KPjrFY7OlcS30P2594HObwlSizexfa5+IA+qoQnNq8IbnZZsJqEtxxXTv3BGYf?= =?us-ascii?q?5WxWRmJVKSmxbz+MK994N9/ipTpvws6ddOXb31cKokQ7NYCi8mM30u683wqRbD?= =?us-ascii?q?VwqP6WACXWgQjxFFHhLK7BD+Xpf2ryv6qu9w0zSUMMHqUbw5Xymp4qF2QxHqlS?= =?us-ascii?q?gHLSY0/m/XhMJukaxVox2uqABizIDbbo6YL+Z+c6DHcN8GWWZMRMRcWipcCY28?= =?us-ascii?q?dYsPCO8BMP5EoobgvVsOrAWxBQ+xD+330DBHm2H53bcn2OkmCw7JwRYgH9MQv3?= =?us-ascii?q?TSt9j1MqASUfy2zKXSyjXDdfxW1C775YPVfB4hpvSMUqhxccrX0UQvGRnFgUuO?= =?us-ascii?q?pozjODOay/oCv3Kd7+V+SeKijXMspQJpojW3wsogl5PFip8LxlzZ7yl0wps5Kc?= =?us-ascii?q?elREN0Y9OpFoZbuTuAOItsWMwiRnlluCYkxb0Cvp62ZC4Kx446xx7DavyIb5KH?= =?us-ascii?q?7gjlVOaWPTd4h2hpeLWlhxa96USgy+v8Wdeo0FtSqidJj8PAum0T2xDO8MSKSO?= =?us-ascii?q?Zx8l281TuA1Q3f8uRELlo1larfJZ4h2Lkwlp8LvEvZAyD2gkT2g7GQdkg//Oio?= =?us-ascii?q?7PjnYrb8qp+bLY90hRnyMr4ylcynHeQ4Lg8OUnCH9uum0b3j+VT1QLFLjv0tjq?= =?us-ascii?q?nUq4vaJMQepq6hGQBZyIcj6xClDzenytsUh3cHLEgWMC6A2oPgPlWLJPHjEd++?= =?us-ascii?q?hU6tmXFl3aPoJLrkV7zBNHnOlv/HdLpw8QYIwQYpzN1Zz5RTFrJHJ+j8DByi/O?= =?us-ascii?q?fEBwM0ZlTni93sD89wg9sT?= X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DAEACT2k9a/5NHeVtdHgEeB4MrZnQgB?= =?us-ascii?q?4QHmQ2CF5cVFIIBCh+JT0EWAQEBAQEBAQEBAWoogjgignMPAT88AgUTDgIRBRi?= =?us-ascii?q?KdwWwRoIninOBD4MFghWBVog7gUcBEgFrgksxgjQFo1yBfYYJjSkNc4IJkQorj?= =?us-ascii?q?G0aQEGIYIE8JgUtJTtwMhoIKAiCZwmDGIE3QDeHMYI8AQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DAEACT2k9a/5NHeVtdHgEeB4MrZnQgB4QHmQ2CF5cVFII?= =?us-ascii?q?BCh+JT0EWAQEBAQEBAQEBAWoogjgignMPAT88AgUTDgIRBRiKdwWwRoIninOBD?= =?us-ascii?q?4MFghWBVog7gUcBEgFrgksxgjQFo1yBfYYJjSkNc4IJkQorjG0aQEGIYIE8JgU?= =?us-ascii?q?tJTtwMhoIKAiCZwmDGIE3QDeHMYI8AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.46,319,1511823600"; d="scan'208";a="307822705" Received: from nautica.notk.org ([91.121.71.147]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 05 Jan 2018 21:08:34 +0100 Received: by nautica.notk.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id DC8CAC009; Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:08:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:08:33 +0100 From: Adrien Nader To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20180105200833.GA26414@notk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [Caml-list] Group registration on Freenode.net for #ocaml channels Hi, Freenode is an IRC network which hosts at least the #ocaml and #ocaml-fr channels (respectively 264 and 47 connectees currently). It has a long-standing policy of differentiating between channels prefixed with one or two dashes: - single-dash channels are "official" and can only exist if they are backed by a group that has been registered at freenode, - double-dash channels can be registered freely. Registering channels is a requirement for channel management. There are currently a few operators (including myself) but some operations are impossible to us because we don't have enough privileges. Since the channels are single-dash with no matching group, we were told we needed a group to change anything or had to migrate to e.g. ##ocaml and ##ocaml-fr. However, until recently, there was no way to register a group and the situation was deadlocked because we didn't feel like migrating either (migrations are really painful). Now that group registration is possible again, I'm looking at the process: http://freenode.net/groupreg . It's not legalese but it's clearly not very entertaining. The main takeaway is « Represents an official relationship between freenode and your project or organisation. ». Everything else is a consequence. Is there a legal/formal entity that wants to establish that official relationship with freenode? This doesn't imply managing the IRC channels but only doing the registration and deciding who gets to actually manage the IRC channels. If so, what should that contact email address be? If not, can "we" register as an informal group? [ Note that without any answer within 30 days, i.e. post-FOSDEM, I will assume there is no interest from a formal entity to enter a relationship with freenode and that we can register as an informal group ] Thanks, -- Adrien Nader