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d="scan'208";a="382529856" X-MGA-submission: =?us-ascii?q?MDEw7gvJGob8GXaZx8fyc4QLeOT4Yfqm7n2+7I?= =?us-ascii?q?1N43t0TzaKL9qQRnhHrAWVFC9USyR8RCfdojO101vAmslQuBGBEFbgB+?= =?us-ascii?q?p1OTua5RKb8RKFKIUDzNN5Rkgv+M5UK9HJm+7UGl7wRu5vy2KtuDN42P?= =?us-ascii?q?p+vAlg/C+/BKTdtWPf9MmEzw=3D=3D?= Received: from nautica.notk.org ([91.121.71.147]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 26 May 2021 16:01:04 +0200 Received: by nautica.notk.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E7A05C01C; Wed, 26 May 2021 16:01:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 16:01:02 +0200 From: Adrien Nader To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20210526140102.GA22143@notk.org> References: <20210520081605.GA32553@notk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210520081605.GA32553@notk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] IRC channels available on libera.chat Reply-To: Adrien Nader X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Sequence: 18507 Errors-To: caml-list-owner@inria.fr Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: caml-list-request@inria.fr X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Hello, Due to the behaviour of the new team on freenode, the future is clear and has occurred much earlier than I had thought. The former freenode staffers had been fairly good at doing things with people; the new staffers seems to not prioritize communication and seems to have a BOFH attitude instead. As such everyone is quickly moving to irc.libera.chat and the control of the #ocaml channel on freenode has been lost. Please point to irc.libera.chat instead of irc.freenode.net in all your links. The matrix bridge is not available but should happen soon. As for the dicord bot, I have no control about it. In any case, it's not worth waiting to change your links because #ocaml on freenode has been bleeding users, which means there are far far fewer people there to answer questions. An explanation of what happened today. A few hours ago, it all channels mentioning "libera" in the topic and without a group registration but using a single # in their names have been automatically changed to automatically redirect people to their counterparts with double ##. Their topic has been changed. While this comes from a long-time freenode policy, the the channel has existed for almost 18 years and staffers never enforced it (and the group registration stuff was impossible during a decade). That this only applies to channels which mentioned "libera" in their topic exemplifies well the attitude of the new staffers. Best, -- Adrien