From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EAEE7EE51 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 23:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of murthy.chet@gmail.com) identity=pra; client-ip=209.85.223.170; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="murthy.chet@gmail.com"; x-sender="murthy.chet@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: domain of murthy.chet@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.170 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.223.170; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="murthy.chet@gmail.com"; x-sender="murthy.chet@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-ie0-f170.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=209.85.223.170; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="murthy.chet@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-ie0-f170.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgCAAOJnlHRVd+qlGdsb2JhbABZiSK8RYEMFg4BAQEBBwsLCRIqgiMBAQQBOgYBGx0BAwELBgUhFRAPARMRAQUBHIgTAQMJBpxAjD+CfYReChknDViHbAEFDI8RBxaDPgOJH513P4RV X-IPAS-Result: AsgCAAOJnlHRVd+qlGdsb2JhbABZiSK8RYEMFg4BAQEBBwsLCRIqgiMBAQQBOgYBGx0BAwELBgUhFRAPARMRAQUBHIgTAQMJBpxAjD+CfYReChknDViHbAEFDI8RBxaDPgOJH513P4RV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,730,1363129200"; d="scan'208";a="15502388" Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com ([209.85.223.170]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 23 May 2013 23:46:00 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id aq17so10388276iec.29 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=AftGEfLHguBvlYqAJaD51KN2wD4jG5e1YAnyzcdXOO8=; b=ztHITNbyT8XEC6lYLvJejqVDiSNuXgJYsw28EAHkEdXsJiRFtoxQ/XFw2d78HeD6yA 2AK8fRZdB1C/8H8c6tOs8KSge/48qW+OsfDUBtI8/5DF5ZS2izfT190oJGnioYDRVUaC Rn9Xk5LQ8AokiwMR/bo08heZRO0F4VfkHh98UI9s70PCnU+DTDvpgdBtXd8ZHVVgv+dd hCLqlZEOv26pudcWvUPHS5D/CaVNtyQC4HUyqsrF+lqRkfKiYaCNjMSWfWwojLlIKzJS OBOryjrQp+88UI73vKwh1MFUqI/jTsw2BKvqTXLGljxEuZ/NQDwcqN5fUXzG7W14bTDH lM+g== X-Received: by 10.50.15.166 with SMTP id y6mr2295263igc.83.1369345559629; Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from groupon.localnet (ip-64-134-232-6.public.wayport.net. [64.134.232.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d4sm27650119igc.3.2013.05.23.14.45.57 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chet Murthy To: caml-list@inria.fr Cc: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=FCnzli?= , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= Glondu Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:55 -0700 Message-ID: <2448733.gHndl9LtpW@groupon> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-38-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5; i686; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20130522123427.GA1894@siouxsie> <519DB8D2.5080102@glondu.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Licenses - Confusion > Regardless of copyleft -- which I'm certain could be expressed in a BSD-like > concise way -- I would personally say that BSD-style licenses are for > humans and GPL-style for lawyers. > > If you need a lawyer to understand your freedom you are not free anymore. > Stop feeding the lawyers and the bureaucrats. -Well-. Suppose you wrote a really, really useful piece of software. Big Software Company X (BSCX) starts using it, and they develop some really nice stuff on top of it, filling a really important gap. But let's be honest: your stuff was the key contribution, and they're just adding a very useful thing to it. But they patent that useful addition, and -then- open-source it. So now, any company that whats to use your software, and get the value of that nifty addition, has to license the patent from BSCX. But that's not at all what you wanted, is it? I guess what I'm saying is, you might -think- that legalese is there to employ lawyers, whereas the -lack- of legalese can often leave loopholes thru which corporate lawyers and their clients will slip. I'm not saying you should use the GPL. Just that there's a -good- reason most corps don't like the GPL: it restricts their ability to suck value out of open-source without giving back. --chet--