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From: Jonathan Protzenko <jonathan.protzenko@gmail.com>
To: "Petter A. Urkedal" <paurkedal@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>,
	"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>,
	"Soegtrop, Michael" <michael.soegtrop@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocambuild vs ocamldep circular dependencies
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:09:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2782bd72-cd55-d2af-37d9-2d097bdeef2b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALa9pHSj26Xe4tHnbq0u+=EuT23-yZURiFzD4No=XiMj6oG8Wg@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, here's how the source code of OCaml deals with this very problem.

https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/blob/trunk/typing/typecore.ml#L84 
(forward reference...)

https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/blob/trunk/typing/typemod.ml#L1564 
(filled later on).

Arguably a dirty hack, but works really nicely in practice imho. Works 
with OCamlbuild too.

~ jonathan

On 7/9/16 9:16 AM, Petter A. Urkedal wrote:
> There is a way to do it if I understood the problem right by
> functorizing and linking explicitly with the `module rec` construct:
>
> $ cat first_sig.mli
> module type S = sig
>    type a
>    type b
>    val null : unit -> a
>    val succ : b -> a
> end
>
> $ cat second_sig.mli
> module type S = sig
>    type a
>    type b
>    val null : b
>    val succ : a -> b
> end
>
> $ cat first.ml
> module Make (X : Second_sig.S) = struct
>    type b = X.b
>    type a = N | B of b
>    let null () = N
>    let succ x = B x
> end
>
> $ cat second.ml
> module Make (X : First_sig.S) = struct
>    type a = X.a
>    type b = N | A of a
>    let null = N
>    let succ x = A x
> end
>
> $ cat both.ml
> module rec A : First_sig.S with type b = B.b = First.Make (B)
>         and B : Second_sig.S with type a = A.a = Second.Make (A)
>
> There are typically some shared types at the top of the signatures,
> which could be put into a separate file and included.
>
>
> On 9 July 2016 at 17:16, Soegtrop, Michael <michael.soegtrop@intel.com> wrote:
>> Dear Gabriel,
>>
>>
>>
>> The current implementation happens to allow them, but this does not mean
>> that they are "valid programs".
>>
>> I see what you mean: since I can’t put both modules into a single file
>> without changing the two let into let rec / and or using recursive modules,
>> it is not valid OCaml, although the compiler accepts it if presented
>> separately.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me see what I can do here. The mutual dependent part is a large part of
>> both modules so it wouldn’t be very nice to put them into one file. But if
>> it is the only option to get a valid OCaml program, I will look into it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Still I think it is unfortunate that OCaml doesn’t support this. It makes it
>> harder to structure software in an aspect oriented way. For simple data
>> structures it is fine to bundle all aspects into a single module or file.
>> For a data structure like a C AST, the module / file will get quite large. I
>> can separate off the statements easily, but this is only a small part of the
>> AST. The largest part are expressions and types, and these are recursively
>> dependent on each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Intel Deutschland GmbH
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>> Tel: +49 89 99 8853-0, www.intel.de
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-09 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-09 12:53 Soegtrop, Michael
2016-07-09 13:45 ` Gabriel Scherer
2016-07-09 15:16   ` Soegtrop, Michael
2016-07-09 16:16     ` Petter A. Urkedal
2016-07-09 20:09       ` Jonathan Protzenko [this message]
2016-07-11  7:59         ` Soegtrop, Michael
2016-07-11 15:32           ` Soegtrop, Michael
2016-07-11 15:56             ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2016-07-12  8:33   ` Goswin von Brederlow

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