From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA21795; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:25:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21791 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:25:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from saul.cis.upenn.edu (SAUL.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.12.4]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g3UBPLH17092 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:25:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saul.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g3UBPKmI029243 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:25:20 -0400 (EDT) To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] OCaml IDEs for beginners? Reply-to: bcpierce@cis.upenn.edu Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:25:20 EDT Message-ID: <29242.1020165920@saul.cis.upenn.edu> From: "Benjamin C. Pierce" Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Are there any programming environments out there for OCaml that are especially well suited to beginning programmers? At the University of Pennsylvania, we teach our intro programming course for CS majors in OCaml (and later Java). At the moment, we are using Emacs (with tuareg mode) as the "programming environment," but we're not very happy with it -- there's too much (dangerous) power, and all the control-F stuff is unintuitive for kids that have been raised on MS Word. Teaching programming to beginners is hard enough without turning editing into a big deal. One obvious improvement would be to build an Emacs mode that hides almost all of its power and offers Word-like mouse- and keybindings. This would be pretty easy. But even better would be a *real* IDE for beginners. (After all, the Scheme community has the very wonderful DrScheme environment...) Is there one? Or, if not, would there be interest in the community in creating one? Benjamin ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners