From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA887BCC8 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7MLLqak028428 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:21:53 +0200 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21806 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:21:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7MLLpeV028424 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:21:52 +0200 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c2so4741604ugf for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tmTSQm/vJ//yx+tAW70EqQvB9hlTzfnwPwiWd+IHMBytREamCQ+z2pE2qNNm+h0+Muqy5T5AeveGrPELcD7YZdAKqZl8tify1t3mujT2NwBst6ndhbZ3XPzwshA+qyZjCQhNhH3y8T0Pa9IZnqnoruj9wfiMnulFmDxdb0SgNbE= Received: by 10.66.220.17 with SMTP id s17mr4660258ugg; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.221.14 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a1a1a0c0608221421l70c52d35ufc7ba5d09ed17733@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:21:51 -0400 From: "Mike Lin" Sender: nilekim@gmail.com To: skaller Subject: Re: [Caml-list] making ocaml mainstream Cc: "Tomasz Jamroszczak" , caml-list@inria.fr In-Reply-To: <1155962043.28068.40.camel@rosella.wigram> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92203_17018070.1156281711618" References: <1155962043.28068.40.camel@rosella.wigram> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9bcd1fdc3b67a990 X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 44EB7570.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 44EB756F.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; mikelin:01 ocaml:01 tomasz:01 ocaml:01 debugging:01 debugger:01 debugging:01 stack:01 backtrace:01 markus:01 mottl's:01 tomasz:01 debugger:01 stack:01 backtrace:01 ------=_Part_92203_17018070.1156281711618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/19/06, skaller wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-08-19 at 03:24 +0200, Tomasz Jamroszczak wrote: > > I've been playing for a second time with Ocaml for a time now and > I've > > got some insights in what could make the language more popular. > > IMHO: the lack of debugging support on Windows is an illusion. > Ocaml code just works (TM), you don't need a debugger. A couple > of debugging prints is usually enough to find problems. I agree with the major exception of there being no stack backtrace for exceptions in native code. Markus Mottl's patch for this has been sitting around for a while...please god, someone put this in the official distribution and release it on godi etc...please, please ------=_Part_92203_17018070.1156281711618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 8/19/06, skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-19 at 03:24 +0200, Tomasz Jamroszczak wrote:
>    I've been playing for a second time with Ocaml for a time now and I've
> got some insights in what could make the language more popular.

IMHO: the lack of debugging support on Windows is an illusion.
Ocaml code just works (TM), you don't need a debugger. A couple
of debugging prints is usually enough to find problems.
 
I agree with the major exception of there being no stack backtrace for exceptions in native code. Markus Mottl's patch for this has been sitting around for a while...please god, someone put this in the official distribution and release it on godi etc...please, please
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