From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC35BC57 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 01:19:47 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0CAP/rn0rRVdvbkGdsb2JhbACCJjCNOoFxiHw/AQEBAQkJDAcTA616gSeQJgEDAgSEFwWBWHGBew X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,327,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="32173072" Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com ([209.85.219.219]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2009 01:19:47 +0200 Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so398094ewy.44 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:19:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RZracfVOxFGimM21ieRZY4pU3jVof9Lf5y0JHhRHPe8=; b=Y0aEdpAkjzbUXqyfc7sELVOEafqOd49djA5IL0VKvGunZrPLnf4giS/fVvfF8AfoeW hfSy6/pBPY0FMWIYgX2iECQ98HBNS4mpi4TDo8i9GeX0NMDEZcf6/kOKswn/4qDRnc85 IjZnji7pmNH/fulaMgbmuur2it6+ukaf59DOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=WnrfiSGQstM+Ht+t/QgTWZX9O0NJV0rJW8N0n6QMil821l/8S9bx4vIboT/9OEwE2q DcyZCL5jkV1WSMKAdlKlFRZXk/LOpwr3ylzzUm3KnFAVVEBJyFb8NZMARtkbQQQUo/Xc bWNUA2FGgEcH6ba2aperXO2Fe+RTrnHAZbjJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.2.16 with SMTP id 16mr11469153ebb.31.1252019987132; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:19:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4d1b2df20909031613r241aecdft82c069cba0223ec4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A9FBF04.1060608@gmail.com> <4d1b2df20909031613r241aecdft82c069cba0223ec4@mail.gmail.com> From: Hugo Schmitt Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:19:27 -0300 Message-ID: <2f1c7d020909031619v3710ab2eva2ca61dd5818c994@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Why don't you use batteries? To: Philippe Wang Cc: Edgar Friendly , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf944895b0df0472b49e8b X-Spam: no; 0.00; schmitt:01 haskell:01 ocaml:01 tarball:01 cheers:01 cheers:01 dependencies:01 camlp:01 beginner's:01 ocaml:01 bug:01 haskell:01 tarball:01 dependencies:01 camlp:01 X-Attachments: cset="UTF-8" cset="UTF-8" --000e0cdf944895b0df0472b49e8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi I installed the Haskell Platform because there was a binary for win32, and didn't installed Ocaml Batteries for the same reason: "You may download the source tarball from the Forge [1], read the on-line API documentation [2] or the extended release notes [3]." Cheers, Hugo On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Philippe Wang wrote: > I am not sure my answer is relevant, but here it is : > > The ratio > (time needed to install&learn&use it) / (time saved) > has to be interesting (close to zero). > > For me, at the moment, this ratio is close to infinite. > > However, I do hope to use it someday. > > Cheers, > > Philippe > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Edgar Friendly > wrote: > > It seems like batteries' adoption isn't quite as thorough as expected. > > We in the batteries devel team would love to know why you don't use > > batteries. Here's some of our guesses: > > > > 1) I *do* use batteries > > 2) It's not 1.0 yet, I'll try it then > > 3) It makes my executables too big > > 4) It's too hard to install (dependencies, godi failures) > > 5) It's difficult to compile against > > 6) It doesn't work on my platform > > 7) It uses camlp4 > > 8) Other (please explain) > > > > Respond in public if appropriate, respond directly to me if you want. > > Now's a good time to think about where batteries is going and how it's > > getting there. > > > > E > > _______________________________________________ > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: > http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list > Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs > --000e0cdf944895b0df0472b49e8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi

I installed the Haskell Platform because there was a binary for w= in32, and didn't installed Ocaml Batteries for the same reason: "Y= ou may download the source tarball from the Forge [1], read the on-line API documentation [2] or the extended release notes [3]."
<= br>Cheers,
Hugo

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at= 8:13 PM, Philippe Wang <philippe.wang.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure my = answer is relevant, but here it is :

The ratio
(time needed to install&learn&use it) / (time saved)
has to be interesting (close to zero).

For me, at the moment, this ratio is close to infinite.

However, I do hope to use it someday.

Cheers,

Philippe

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems like batteries' adoption isn't quite as thorough as e= xpected.
> We in the batteries devel team would love to know why you don't us= e
> batteries. =C2=A0Here's some of our guesses:
>
> 1) I *do* use batteries
> 2) It's not 1.0 yet, I'll try it then
> 3) It makes my executables too big
> 4) It's too hard to install (dependencies, godi failures)
> 5) It's difficult to compile against
> 6) It doesn't work on my platform
> 7) It uses camlp4
> 8) Other (please explain)
>
> Respond in public if appropriate, respond directly to me if you want.<= br> > Now's a good time to think about where batteries is going and how = it's
> getting there.
>
> E

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