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From: rossberg@mpi-sws.org
To: "Dawid Toton" <d0@wp.pl>
Cc: "caml-list" <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: References and polymorphism
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:43:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <307f99bdbbb797985a66a4798b2dd1f1.squirrel@mail.mpi-sws.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F0D6913.4090207@wp.pl>

Dawid Toton wrote:
> Why not to just forbid too general 'a ref types? See the example from
> the page cited above (with explicit quantifier added):
>
> let f : forall 'a. 'a -> 'a =
>    let r : 'a option ref = ref None in
>    fun x -> (* do evil things with the ref cell *)
>      let y = !r in
>      let () = r := Some x in
>      match y with
>        | None -> x
>        | Some y -> y
>
> The problem is that the 'a variable is bound by a general quantifier and
> at the same time it is used to give a type to the ref cell. But if this
> were forbidden, I see no need for the value restriction at all. For example:
>
> let g : forall 'a. 'a -> 'a =
>    fun (x : exists 'b. 'b) ->
>      let r : 'b option ref = ref None in
>      (* nothing bad can happen *)
>      ...

Nothing useful can happen either. You could never read a value back from r
and use/return it as an 'a or for anything else. So why would you want to
store it there in the first place?

Also, I don't quite understand how your type annotations are supposed to
match up. If x : exists 'b. 'b, then f can't be forall 'a. 'a -> 'a.

/Andreas


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-11 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-10 15:29 [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2012-01-10 15:45 ` Romain Bardou
2012-01-10 16:31   ` Arnaud Spiwack
2012-01-10 17:00 ` Dario Teixeira
2012-01-10 17:20   ` David Allsopp
2012-01-10 18:59     ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-11 10:48     ` [Caml-list] " Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 11:07       ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-11 13:00         ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 13:15           ` rossberg
2012-01-11 13:56             ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 15:42               ` rossberg
2012-01-12  9:55                 ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-12 10:05                   ` Andrej Bauer
2012-01-12 10:46                     ` Romain Bardou
2012-01-11 11:43       ` rossberg [this message]
2012-01-11 13:34         ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 15:34           ` rossberg
2012-01-11 13:57         ` Dawid Toton

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