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From: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
To: Brian Rogoff <bpr@best.com>
Cc: Vijay Chakravarthy <vchakravarthy@verticalnet.com>,
	mattias.waldau@abc.se, Arturo Borquez <aborquez@altavista.com>,
	caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML? (was Haskell)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:43:02 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AC12586.E96D150E@ozemail.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103241014050.1801-100000@shell5.ba.best.com>

Brian Rogoff wrote:

> > The main difficulties we have faced have been --
> > a) Education - Out here even for people skilled in scheme and some other
> > functional languages, it is challenging to learn ocaml.
> 
> What have the issues been? I hate to mention this again (and again, ...) but
> I find that beginners and non-experts stumble over syntax a lot.

	The main problem is that the Tutorial and Reference are weak.
If the Ocaml Consortium gets off the ground, this ought to be one
of it's first tasks (i.e., hire a tech writer, not a programmer!)

	I am constantly stumbling over syntax: even when the underlying
principles are clear, it is hard to find the right syntax, and it
is even harder to comprehend which constructions are actually
supported by the compiler. My main source of information is postings
to this list.

> I would have said that it's ideal for VLSI design software (any other EDA
> hackers out there?) so maybe it's just ideal for everything?

	No. It isn't so good for low level systems software, (use C or C++)
nor for integration tasks (use C). It should be much better than
Java for everything Java can do, if only library support were extended,
with some core support for security and internet.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-28  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-24  3:17 Arturo Borquez
2001-03-24  8:03 ` Vijay Chakravarthy
2001-03-24 18:38   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-24 21:55     ` Vijay Chakravarthy
2001-03-26  0:29     ` Dennis Gang Chen
2001-03-26  3:03       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-26  9:34         ` BDD and Ocaml (was: Re: [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML?) David Mentre
2001-03-26 15:44           ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-30 14:37             ` [Caml-list] OCaml binding to cmuBDD David Mentre
2001-03-26 14:10         ` [Caml-list] Why not article in journal ? (was Why People Aren't Using OCAML?) Christophe Raffalli
2001-03-26 12:43           ` Xavier Leroy
2001-03-26 13:25     ` [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML? (was Haskell) FabienFleutot
2001-03-28  8:23       ` [Caml-list] [ora book] Why a horse? David Mentre
2001-03-29 13:48       ` [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML? (was Haskell) Xavier Leroy
2001-03-29 14:05         ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2001-03-29 14:14           ` Xavier Urbain
2001-03-29 14:38         ` Jean-Francois Monin
2001-03-29 16:19           ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-27 23:43     ` John Max Skaller [this message]
2001-03-28  4:37       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-28 14:24         ` Joshua D. Guttman
2001-03-28 19:32       ` William Chesters
2001-03-27  3:43   ` Chris Hecker
2001-03-27  8:57     ` wester
2001-03-30 18:59       ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-28 22:00     ` Joseph R. Kiniry
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-29 14:26 Toby Moth
2001-03-23 18:04 [Caml-list] recursive modules redux, & interface files Brian Rogoff
2001-03-23 20:35 ` [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML? (was Haskell) Mattias Waldau

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