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From: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
To: David McClain <dmcclain1@mindspring.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Evaluation Order
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:06:29 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B237EE5.80622A4C@ozemail.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000901c0f13b$f981c610$210148bf@dylan>

David McClain wrote:

> The results of these two operations, integers, are arithmetically commutable
> under addition. But what isn't commutable is the order in which these
> operations occur. No current type checking in OCaml (or any other language
> with which I am familiar) could help catch this mistake.

	In principle, the Felix type checker would prevent this:
side-effects are not permitted in functions. In practice,
I had to relax the syntax permitted in functions, and the current
translator doesn't check for side effects yet. You can also
cheat, by wrapping C functions as Felix functions: there's no
way to check if the C function has side effects or not.

	The reason for relaxing the rules is that it is very ugly
and insecure to write things like:

	val x : int; // uninitialised variable!
	fetch(&x, &state_object);

instead of

	val x : int = fetch(&state_object);

I can't think of good way around this though.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-11 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-09 15:59 David McClain
2001-06-09 20:17 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-09 23:12   ` David McClain
2001-06-09 23:28     ` David McClain
2001-06-10  1:04       ` Dave Mason
2001-06-10  2:25         ` David McClain
2001-06-11 13:03           ` Dave Mason
2001-06-12 17:55             ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-13 16:54               ` Frederick Smith
2001-06-13 21:43                 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-10  1:06       ` Charles Martin
2001-06-10  2:27         ` David McClain
2001-06-10 11:18         ` Tore Lund
2001-06-10 13:11           ` Tore Lund
2001-06-10 14:31           ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-12 15:12             ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-10 10:40       ` Joerg Czeranski
2001-06-10 14:06       ` John Max Skaller [this message]
2001-06-11 12:59         ` Dave Mason
2001-06-12 17:34           ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-10 13:47   ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-10 16:47     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-10 17:27       ` Dave Mason
2001-06-12 16:10       ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-09 23:19 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-10  2:44 David McClain
2001-06-10  2:48 ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-10  5:51   ` David McClain
2001-06-10 17:59 Damien Doligez
2001-06-10 18:28 ` Dave Mason
2001-06-15 17:00 Manuel Fahndrich
2009-06-14 16:36 evaluation order Christophe Raffalli
2009-06-14 19:40 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-06-14 21:12   ` Christophe Raffalli

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