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From: "Harrison, John R" <johnh@ichips.intel.com>
To: <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>, <caml-list@inria.fr>
Cc: "Harrison, John R" <johnh@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Efficient and canonical set representation?
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:15:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C4C3612EC443546A33E57003DB4F0F914C26E@orsmsx409.jf.intel.com> (raw)

| You basically want O(1) for set equality, I suppose.

Actually, no --- perhaps I should have made clearer what I *really* want.
The efficiency of comparison wasn't my motivation, but rather elegance
and aesthetics. And I meant "canonical" with respect to ordinary
structural equality, not necessarily pointer equality, so the problem is
potentially a bit easier than you might have thought.

I want to be able to treat an abstract type in a truly abstract way,
and not worry about special-purpose equality relations on certain types.
Otherwise it's an ugly mess dealing with complicated nestings like sets
of pairs of lists of sets.

Now, I think the right solution, conceptually speaking, is to allow
user-defined equality on abstract types. But as far as I know this cannot
be done in OCaml, and I've never met much enthusiasm for the idea among
the CAML or SML experts.

So a poor second best is to define abstract types in a canonical way, 
which was the starting-point of my question.

After your remarks and Brian's, I'm starting to wonder if it is possible
at all to do what I want. Maybe I should be looking for an impossibility
proof instead...

John.

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             reply	other threads:[~2003-11-07 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-07 14:15 Harrison, John R [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-12 17:18 Harrison, John R
2003-11-12  3:34 Harrison, John R
2003-11-12  7:50 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12  0:20 Harrison, John R
2003-11-12  2:04 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 16:16 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-11-07 17:27 Fred Smith
2003-11-10 13:24 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-11-10 19:28   ` Julien Signoles
2003-11-07 15:27 Fred Smith
2003-11-07 15:44 ` Samuel Lacas
2003-11-08 16:50   ` Eray Ozkural
2003-11-06 16:41 Harrison, John R
2003-11-06 17:04 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-07  3:43 ` Eray Ozkural
2003-11-07  3:52 ` Eray Ozkural

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