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d="scan'208";a="272973984" Received: from smtp685.redcondor.net ([208.80.206.85]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA256; 13 May 2017 19:08:10 +0200 Received: from outbound2.logical.net ([209.23.116.122]) by smtp685.redcondor.net ({20c8e40f-6b6c-4c9e-abff-1640ea7bf404}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20170513170805878_0685 for ; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:08:05 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from [192.168.2.6] (71-45-15-205.res.bhn.net [71.45.15.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound2.logical.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v4DH7w4o019437 for ; Sat, 13 May 2017 13:07:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Marshall In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 12:08:00 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3CD9DC4C-3956-49E7-8A5D-D69A3A2DA7C6@logical.net> References: <59149DC2025C048200390482_0_27273@msllnjpmsgsv06> <7B2C5D230E264432A259D91C0F5D7096@erratique.ch> <7CC1A434-6814-484D-A2F8-8E9B5BC6C260@recoil.org> <87d1bfnob6.fsf@umons.ac.be> <74046D53-1B0F-4464-87E0-12D0D017875E@logical.net> To: caml users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-MAG-OUTBOUND: logical.redcondor.net@209.23.116/24 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] discuss.ocaml.org now available Thanks very much to Anil and everyone who=E2=80=99s been working on the new= forum. Looks great. Marshall > On May 13, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > Firstly, thank you to Marshall for kicking off this discussion. It seems= clear from the discussion that there is a desire for an asynchronous, mode= rn mailing-list style communications mechanism for the community. There ar= e several other more synchronous chat-based solutions (IRC, Slack, Gitter),= but Discourse stood out as as an open-source forum that is successfully us= ed by other communities such as Rust [1]. >=20 > Therefore, I have set up a hosted Discourse instance at http://discuss.oc= aml.org as an experimental service, and now need your help to decide whethe= r or not this is a viable longer term solution for our community. It is op= en to signups, and we have two immediate things to do: >=20 > - Decide how to organise the categories in the site [2] > - A timeline for shifting various ocaml.org services over to this [3] >=20 > Most immediately, as we decide on categories, we need volunteers to help = nurture the site and keep an eye on their areas. Globally, there are curren= tly two administrators (Gabriel Scherer and myself), and we can expand acce= ss controls as the site comes into its own. >=20 > It is open to public signups immediately, so please do give it a try. Bea= r in mind that as it is experimental, it is probably a good idea to expect = some rearrangements of the configuration in the next few weeks. Anyone inte= rested is extremely welcome to comment on the existing topics below with th= eir opinions, or to begin a new one as appropriate. >=20 >=20 > [1] Gabriel Scherer did the research the last time this topic came up! ht= tps://users.rust-lang.org/t/what-are-rusts-discourse-hosting-plans-and-time= -requirement/6462 >=20 > [2] http://discuss.ocaml.org/t/which-categories-to-create-in-the-site/19 >=20 > [3] http://discuss.ocaml.org/t/discussion-site-status-and-timeline/23 >=20 > best regards, > Anil >=20 >> On 12 May 2017, at 02:08, Marshall wrote: >>=20 >> I see IRC and Slack (and Gitter, I think) as playing a different role th= an Yahoo or Google groups and mailing lists (and Discourse, I think). Both= categories of interaction=E2=80=94one good for relatively fast interaction= s, the other with better support for long time delays=E2=80=94seem valuable= , but in different ways. Each category should be supported, even though Ya= hoo groups doesn=E2=80=99t seem like the best member of the second category. >>=20 >> There are additional comments in the Google group interface to caml-list= that don=E2=80=99t show up in the caml-list archives (nor in my inbox). I= =E2=80=99m not sure why I can=E2=80=99t see these messages elsewhere. Ther= e was a suggestion there to use Pan as an interface to the Yahoo group. I = don=E2=80=99t know anything about Pan, but if there=E2=80=99s a better inte= rface that would be likely to be appealing to new users, then an option wou= ld be to promote use of that interface. It sounds as if Pan uses a Usenet = interface. Many of us feel fondly that Usenet affected our lives in a very= positive way, although in a time that seems distant now. In my ignorance = of Usenet's current state, my first thought is to wonder whether it would b= e ideal for appealing new users, but I don=E2=80=99t know the answer. >>=20 >> Marshall >>=20 >> --=20 >> Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: >> https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list >> Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners >> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: > https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs >=20