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From: Christopher Quinn <cq@htec.demon.co.uk>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: Camlp4/OCaml
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:22:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CE43F25.7070206@htec.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020516214412.K2924@verdot.inria.fr>

How can camlp4 be unimportant or a waste of time!

Here are some things I find useful about it:

o conditional compilation

o ability to add command line options to switch between one's own 'safe' 
modules and their 'unsafe' versions which can only be done in the case 
of Arrays and Strings with the standard compiler.

o one can always modify one's own copy of the parser,
but that's a bother when something in the original changes, and besides, 
camlp4's extension mechanism allows a compact and manageable format.

o no matter how one redefines the syntax, just running the source 
through camlp4 can reconstruct it in the vanilla form. So no one ever 
needs to suffer another's idea of perfection!

o camlp4 seems to me to be one way to avoid the endless creation of 
mini-languages for specific tasks that end up trying to do stuff beyond 
their limited design. Better to start with the expressivity of the likes 
of caml, maybe cutting down, and augment with p4 extensions. I'm 
planning to embed some sql style DDL for my project.

o I can write code without_the_god_damn_awful_underscore character 
stressing my hands and use-an-alternative-even (though-I-am-no-fan-of-lisp)!


I felt these reasons were compelling enough to justify  switching to 
camlp4 as my default parser.

The above doubtless has no bearing on the technical arguments for not 
having camlp4 in the distribution.
I just want to say I think camlp4 is important and indispensible.

- chris

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-16 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-15  9:13 [Caml-list] Generating C stubs Jérôme Marant
2002-05-15  9:49 ` Jocelyn Sérot
2002-05-15 12:17   ` Jérôme Marant
2002-05-15 12:38     ` Remi VANICAT
2002-05-15 20:19       ` Jérôme Marant
2002-05-16  7:06     ` Florian Hars
2002-05-16  7:34       ` Markus Mottl
2002-05-16 19:13         ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/OCaml [was: Generating C stubs] Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-05-16 19:27           ` Chris Hecker
2002-05-16 19:39           ` John Prevost
2002-05-16 19:44             ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-05-16 20:28               ` Chris Hecker
2002-05-16 21:38               ` Markus Mottl
2002-05-17  0:31                 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-05-17 14:32                   ` Pierre Weis
2002-05-17 15:31                     ` Markus Mottl
2002-05-17 21:18                       ` Pierre Weis
2002-05-17 21:37                         ` Dave Mason
2002-05-18  9:46                           ` Pierre Weis
2002-05-21 17:51                             ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-05-19 11:31                         ` Markus Mottl
2002-05-21 17:10                           ` james woodyatt
2002-05-20  1:18                         ` [Caml-list] Tail recursion detection John Max Skaller
2002-05-21  7:46                           ` Alain Frisch
2002-05-21 11:35                             ` Benedikt Grundmann
2002-05-21 15:12                             ` John Max Skaller
2002-05-22 12:44                               ` Noel Welsh
2002-05-22 16:47                                 ` John Max Skaller
2002-05-21  8:57                           ` Noel Welsh
2002-05-20 22:59                     ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/OCaml [was: Generating C stubs] Alessandro Baretta
2002-05-16 23:22               ` Christopher Quinn [this message]
2002-05-17  7:02                 ` [Caml-list] Re: Camlp4/OCaml Daniel de Rauglaudre
     [not found]               ` <Pine.BSF.4.40.0205170357340.11758-100000@bpr.best.vwh.net>
2002-05-17  7:09                 ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/OCaml [was: Generating C stubs] Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-05-17  7:54               ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/OCaml Michel Mauny
2002-05-17  8:05                 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-05-16 14:09 ` [Caml-list] Generating C stubs Benedikt Grundmann
2002-05-16 16:37 ` Jeff Henrikson
2002-05-16 16:31   ` Benedikt Grundmann
2002-05-17  5:59     ` Jeff Henrikson

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