From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA27574; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:44:34 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27562 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:44:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au (sunny.pacific.net.au [203.25.148.40]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g6CDiVf02571 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:44:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g6CDiTSs026260; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from ozemail.com.au (ppp115.dyn1.pacific.net.au [61.8.1.115]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id XAA24815; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3D2EDD3B.2080100@ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:44:27 +1000 From: John Max Skaller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2.1) Gecko/20010901 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oleg CC: OCaml Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: productivity improvement References: <200207081952.PAA28813@hickory.cc.columbia.edu> <001f01c2271e$8037adf0$d100a8c0@warp> <3D2C5B77.6060303@ozemail.com.au> <200207121035.GAA26600@dewberry.cc.columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Oleg wrote: >Looking at Halo [1] credits, one can see that it was developed by about 10 >programmers (there were also testers and artists involved). A single O'Caml >programmer capable of developing such a game alone should certainly stand to >make tons of money. Then why don't we see much software written in O'Caml? > >I'm not buying the argument that "O'Caml isn't used in the industry because >investors and project managers are stupid". > Two major reasons. (1) licence uncertainty (2) lack of programmers Issue (2) will go away with time as use snowballs, it would help if Universities started teaching Ocaml instead of stupid OO languages like Java, or at least as well as. Lack of bindings to C libraries is also an obstacle, but I'd roll that up into issue (2). It would be really useful if all the run time parts of Ocaml were given a simple no bull licence such as 'free for any use' so it was quite clear that generated code was OWNED by the entity that owned the inputs. -- John Max Skaller, mailto:skaller@ozemail.com.au snail:10/1 Toxteth Rd, Glebe, NSW 2037, Australia. voice:61-2-9660-0850 ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners