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From: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
To: Jonathan Coupe <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Games (Re: [Caml-list] Caml productivity.)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 01:39:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D495640.7020806@ozemail.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002301c237f5$154edbc0$890bfea9@mimbi>

Jonathan Coupe wrote:

>>Chatting with game/CG professionals around me _strengthened_ this
>>impression: the symbolic parts seem even more non-trivial in realistic
>>applications.
>>
>
>I am a games and realtime 3D professional - and I have to tell you, in the
>nicest way (I hope) this really isn't how things are. I'd suggest that your
>conversations have naturally reflected your own interests. If you want to
>make a balanced assessment of what people do in the real world, try looking
>at some representative books and collections of conference papers - the
>Graphics Gems and Game Gems series would be good starting points.
>
The issue isn't what is done in the real world, by companies that don't 
really know
how to develop a game, but what *ought* to be done.

It would be nice, for example, if a military game had some small 
resemblance to
actual warfare. Military units have intelligence. They operate with 
stranding orders
with some reason to believe the orders are effective. They move from 
point A to
point B with some kind of common sense.

Now look at the utterly abysmal routing in most military games,
the totally absurd actions units take, etc.

Sorry. The real world isn't a very good model: it's driven by greed,
not by a desire for quality.

-- 
John Max Skaller, mailto:skaller@ozemail.com.au
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-01 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-15 21:22 [Caml-list] Caml productivity Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-20 15:16 ` William Chesters
2002-07-22 18:22   ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-22 18:41     ` achrist
2002-07-22 19:23       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-22 21:13         ` [Caml-list] CamlIDL and function pointers Michael Tucker
2002-07-23  8:39           ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-23 13:11             ` Dmitry Bely
2002-07-24 15:00             ` Michael Tucker
2002-07-25  9:36               ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-22 21:26     ` Games (Re: [Caml-list] Caml productivity.) Oleg
2002-07-23  2:56       ` Issac Trotts
2002-07-23 11:03         ` eijiro_sumii
2002-07-23 16:17           ` Charles Martin
2002-07-29  3:36           ` Andrei de A. Formiga
2002-07-29  6:32             ` Florian Hars
2002-07-29 10:23             ` eijiro_sumii
     [not found]               ` <001901c237a7$9e685920$890bfea9@mimbi>
2002-07-30  4:52                 ` eijiro_sumii
2002-07-30 18:13                   ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-07-30  6:16                     ` eijiro_sumii
2002-08-01 15:39                     ` John Max Skaller [this message]
2002-08-01 15:59                       ` Markus Mottl
2002-08-01 16:28                       ` Jonathan Coupe
     [not found]                         ` <86vg6ta9o6.fsf@laurelin.dementia.org>
2002-08-02 12:50                           ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-08-02 14:51                         ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-25  3:19       ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-28 13:45         ` Jonathan Coupe
2002-07-29  0:57           ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-22 22:00     ` [Caml-list] Caml productivity Alexander V.Voinov
2002-07-20 15:25 ` Oleg
2002-07-22  6:41 ` Tom
2002-07-22 10:46 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-22 17:46   ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-24  3:20     ` Travis Bemann
2002-07-24  9:45       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-26 21:42         ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-27  4:41           ` Issac Trotts
2002-07-27  5:49             ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-27 14:49               ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-27  9:06           ` Oleg
2002-07-27 18:18             ` Chris Hecker
2002-07-29  8:13         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-30  4:46           ` Travis Bemann
2002-07-24  8:02     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-24  8:25       ` Jérôme Marant
2002-07-24 10:00       ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2002-07-27  9:06         ` Oleg

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