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From: Florian Hars <hars@bik-gmbh.de>
To: SooHyoung Oh <shoh@duonix.com>
Cc: Caml-List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Q: safe language
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:41:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6F842C.6030402@bik-gmbh.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001c01c24fc5$9c51bfb0$fe00a8c0@hama>

SooHyoung Oh wrote:
 > Some questions about "safe" language:
 > - Is it necessary for a safe language to have a type system?

Yes, but it needn't be static nor strong. Perl (like the other, less obfuscated
dialects of Lisp :-)) is a safe language, too: there is no way that the
execution of a valid instruction like an access of a variable will result in a
program crash, the only risk is an unexpected result if you miss some $ in
${$$r{$i}}[$j].

In C, on the other hand, it is perfectly possible to have a valid code fragment

   int * i_ptr;

   i_ptr = get_some_address();
   &i = 42;

that may occasionally crash.

 > - Isn't Lisp a safe language?

Yes, as Vitaly Lugovsky has convincingly demonstrated in another message.

Yours, Florian
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-31 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-30  1:36 SooHyoung Oh
2002-08-30  8:41 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-08-30 12:44 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 13:05   ` David Frese
2002-08-30 13:46     ` Oleg
2002-08-30 16:09       ` Yutaka OIWA
2002-08-30 13:49     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:04       ` J Farrand
2002-08-30 14:26         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-08-30 15:31             ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:55           ` Mike Lin
2002-08-30 14:58             ` Eric Newhuis
2002-08-30 16:03           ` Yutaka OIWA
2002-08-30 21:44           ` Oliver Bandel
2002-09-01  8:07         ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-30 14:50       ` David Frese
2002-08-30 15:38         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 15:28     ` didier plaindoux
2002-08-30 14:41 ` Florian Hars [this message]
2002-08-30 14:42 ` Nicolas Cannasse

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