From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA26658; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:39:40 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27075 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) X-SPAM-Warning: Sending machine is listed in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com Received: from athlon.baretta.com ([62.211.4.149]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g9FBdc500747 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:39:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from baretta.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.baretta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C7F27250; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:50:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3DAC00F4.4060603@baretta.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:50:12 +0200 From: Alessandro Baretta Organization: Baretta srl -- www.baretta.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: it, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ocaml , Eray Ozkural Subject: Re: [Caml-list] eproductivity improvement References: <200207081952.PAA28813@hickory.cc.columbia.edu> <200207121035.GAA26600@dewberry.cc.columbia.edu> <3D2EDD3B.2080100@ozemail.com.au> <200210151157.10918.erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Friday 12 July 2002 16:44, John Max Skaller wrote: > >>Two major reasons. >> >> (1) licence uncertainty >> (2) lack of programmers >> >>Issue (2) will go away with time as use snowballs, >>it would help if Universities started teaching Ocaml instead >>of stupid OO languages like Java, or at least as well as. > > > Indeed. The industry wants OO, the industry thinks Java is the > ultimate OO language, they persuade clueless academics (who might as well > think that choice of PL is irrelevant to understanding the theory), and > then they start teaching Java (and now C#) at the university. "God is dead!" cried Zarathustra. I don't know about that, really, but I can tell you that "Culture is very ill!" I have just been told that the Politecnico di Milano, acknowledging the industry's need for new class of engineers--more obtuse, acritical, and, overall, cheap--intends to swap the traditional Software Engineering course with the more modern, obtuse, and cheap "Software Engineering in Java". I feel *so* proud that my university should be *so* modern. Wow. Vive la France! Vive l'X! Et surtout, vive le Caml! Alex ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners