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From: Issac Trotts <ijtrotts@ucdavis.edu>
To: OCaml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: OCaml performance (was: Re: [Caml-list] DFT in OCaml vs. C)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:27:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E836CD4.5030206@ucdavis.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.03.10303271612340.60-100000@basilic.ens.fr>

David Monniaux wrote:

>>The "Pentium 4 SSE2" column is an experimental code generator for the
>>Pentium 4 that uses SSE2 instructions and registers for floating-point
>>computations.  (Before you ask: no, it's not publically available,
>>    
>>
>
>In this case, to get meaningful comparison results, you should use
>gcc -march=pentium4 -msse2 or icc -march=pentium4
>
>  
>
>>and it delivers about 2/3 of the performances of C, even on the Pentium.
>>    
>>
>
>Let me tell you about our experience here. We are developing a large
>program consisting of
>- a large part of Caml code handling complex data structures
>- a smaller C library handling certain numerical matrix computations that
>  are triggered by the Caml code
>- some C (+ assembler) libraries dealing with system-dependent issues.
>
>I profiled the code using OProfile (http://oprofile.sourceforge.net), for
>expenses in clock cycles and cache faults. Earlier attempts were made with
>gprof.
>
>It turned out that we spent a significant amount of time in:
>
>- The Caml polymorphic compare function (15% time + some cache faults)
>
>  Part of the problem seems to lie with the fact that the same function is
>  called when comparing strings, int64's and other types, thus the
>  processor has to do lots of tests and jumps just to get at the correct
>  comparison function.
>
>  Wouldn't it be reasonable to define String.compare and Int64.compare to
>  call monomorphic functions?
>
>- The garbage collector (15% time + lots of cache faults)
>
>  There's little we can do about it. Changing the size of the minor heap,
>  adjusting it to optimize the use of L2 cache seems to gain 2.30% of the
>  total running time.
>
>  Curiously, using the compactor seems to slow things slightly.
>
>  Would it be possible to optimize the GC cache-wise? For instance, have
>  it ask the processor to "prefetch" data.
>
>- 17% in a particular matrix function written in C. There's little we can
>  do except trying to optimize it carefully and compiling it with the best
>  C compiler around.
>
>- The rest of the time is spent within the Caml code.
>
>Now this was a bit surprising to us, because we thought we spent far more
>time in the numerical computations.
>
>
>Now back to the original question about DFTs. In your real-life
>application, will DFT computations make a major part of the clock cycles
>spent by the program?
>
There's a small image processing experiment I want to do that will compute
lots of DFTs on small sub-images and will probably spend most of its 
clock cycles
doing the transforms.  

- Issac




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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-27 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-27  7:33 [Caml-list] DFT in OCaml vs. C Issac Trotts
2003-03-27 10:58 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2003-03-27 19:40   ` Issac Trotts
2003-03-27 14:21 ` Markus Mottl
2003-03-27 20:47   ` Issac Trotts
2003-03-27 14:32 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-03-27 14:55   ` Falk Hueffner
2003-03-27 16:06   ` OCaml performance (was: Re: [Caml-list] DFT in OCaml vs. C) David Monniaux
2003-03-27 21:27     ` Issac Trotts [this message]
2003-03-27 20:54   ` [Caml-list] DFT in OCaml vs. C Issac Trotts

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